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[Dale <dweide9 AT aim.com>]

Hi all,
Boy, I can see why most people need their website hosted. This DNS crap can 
drive a person nuts! 
So I updated my ISP with what Amrit & Alex said & below is his response. In 
my freespeech.free control panel there is only info regarding name servers, 
their settings & whether I choose to use my own or opennics, & I chose 
opennic's servers. There is no place to put in my static ip address. It 
sounds like what he is saying, is that everything needs to be correct & 
working between opennic's name servers & my computer before an rDNS will work 
on his end. Does it sound like I am reading him correctly & if so, is he 
right?


Dale



-----Original Message-----
From: David T <davidterc AT napanet.net>
To: 'Dale' <dweide9 AT aim.com>
Sent: Mon, Jan 30, 2012 9:55 am
Subject: RE: [opennic-discuss] server setup



>From what I’m gathering from this, you need to have a domain/subdomain that 
>points back at your static IP, and once that is in place, I can set the rDNS 
>up with that domain that is properly set, otherwise the system will not 
>allow it.
 
-Dave
 
From: Dale [mailto:dweide9 AT aim.com] 
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 8:07 PM
To: support AT napanet.net
Subject: Fwd: [opennic-discuss] server setup
 



Hi David, 

First I want to say thank you for your patience on this. 

Below is the response I got from Amrit, a knowledgeable gentleman on this 
subject. He is not aware that I already have bind9 running on my server, it 
is set as master of my domain, & it has the appropriate file with a reverse 
look up zone & a Pointer Record (PTR), but freespeech.free is still 
unreachable even with all this. So please read what he wrote below, but in 
order for my domain name to work, it appears essential that Napanet create a 
PTR. Here is what my file looks like, which I'm assuming is somewhat similar 
to what you would need to create (it should have 2 name servers listed but 
bind threw an error, which resolved when I removed it):

> ; BIND reverse data file for my local interface
> ;
> $TTL    86400
> @       IN      SOA     ns1.freespeech.free. dweide9.netscape.net. (
>                             2          ; Serial
>                         28800          ; Refresh
>                          7200          ; Retry
>                        604800          ; Expire
>                         86400 )        ; Negative Cache TTL
> ;
> @       IN      NS      ns1.
> @       IN      A       202.83.95.228
> 10    IN    PTR    ns1.freespeech.free.

There is also some info from Alex, below what Amrit sent. I am including it, 
but to me it just seems to muddy the water. 

Thanks again for working with me on this, & I owe you a 6-pack (or case?) of 
the finest beer. Which for you would be what?


Dale

 

From: Amrit Panesar <apanesar AT 4195tech.com>

The way I can see this playing out is like this:
 
Essentially you need to run a Bind9 server. This DNS server will be 
authoritative (master) for your opennic domain(s). Generally, your ISP is 
supposed to set the Pointer Record (PTR) on their own, any time you need to 
change your rDNS, you're supposed to go through them. However, I think 
they're 
trying to delegate (using an NS record) the rDNS to the Tier1 server, this is 
not correct. Any Tier1 servers are only authoritative for OpenNIC zones. So, 
as 
per your rDNS, you either need to make a reverse look up zone with a PTR 
record 
for your IP OR (in what I believe is the proper way to do this) have your ISP 
set the PTR on their end.
Just to reiterate, even if your ISP doesn't resolve OpenNIC zones (though you 
should definitely urge them to!), they can still set an rDNS for your ip with 
an
OpenNIC domain.
Good Luck!
--Amrit
 
 
And this was from Alex:
thats not a rDNS, you cant do: 202.83.95.229 point to 50.0.97.146, thats 
forward.
 
rDNS is, if you have the ip 202.83.95.229 you can request your reverse 
dns like -> ns.tier2.dale.com and both must be syncronized
 
ip --> DNS
DNS --> ip
 
and then do what Amrit said.
On Jan 28, 2012, at 9:20, Dale <dweide9 AT aim.com> wrote:
 
> 
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> I'm hoping someone can help me help my ISP. As per earlier directions from 
Amrit, I contacted my ISP & asked them to set up an rDNS for my home 
webserver. 
Below you'll note that the tech guy requested info for the .free TLD Tier1 
server. I gave this to him but is this the info he really needs? As you can 
see 
below, he was unable to set up the rDNS for me using that server info. Can 
anyone tell what he was doing wrong? I think Amrit felt this was the issue 
after 
seeing the nslookup results that are far below. 
> I just switched to a small local ISP, who gave me a static ip & are quite 
willing to help me, so the answer wouldn't be to switch my ISP again.
> 
> 
> Dale
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David T <davidterc AT napanet.net>
> To: 'Dale' <dweide9 AT aim.com>
> Sent: Fri, Jan 27, 2012 2:55 pm
> Subject: RE: server setup
> 
> 
> 
> The system won’t allow us to enter this in:
> 
> The name 202.83.95.229 can not be assigned to 50.0.97.146 because 
202.83.95.229 currently points to 202.83.95.229. 202.83.95.229 must point to 
50.0.97.146.
> 
> We don’t have anyone here who would be able to setup something like this 
> for 
you, you would have to look elsewhere unfortunately for guidance on the 
issue. 
> 
> 
> David Tercovich
> Systems Administrator
> Napanet Internet Services
> 947 Lincoln Ave. Napa, CA 94558
> 707-299-1000 x103