Dns-operations mailing list

[Jeff Taylor <shdwdrgn AT sourpuss.net>]

What bothers me is that you have sent multiple emails stating that you
do not wish to receive the messages about the wiki server, and even
after being told how to remove yourself from that list, you are still
trying to hold a discussion about why you don't want to see those
messages.  This is about as pointless as someone who continuously sends
messages to a mailing list demanding to be removed from the list even
after several people point out that at the bottom of every message is
instructions on how they can remove themselves from the list.  Yes, it
happens, and even though I am not the list administrator, it still
aggravates me every time.

I assume you do not have any filters set up because your previous emails
have given the impression that you are being flooded by the wiki server
notifications, that they are clogging up your mailbox.  If you already
have those messages going into their own subfolder, then what is the
problem?  Why all the emails criticizing the use of the reports list for
server status notifications?  These types of messages are exactly the
reason why the list was created in the first place - to keep all of the
reports in one place.

For what it's worth, I do in fact care about the status of all the T1
and T2 servers.  That was the whole point of creating the t2log page, so
that everyone could easily see at a glance if there were any problems
that need resolved.  I personally keep this page open in a tab at all
times and take a look several times throughout the day.  Server
availability has become somewhat of a pet-peeve for me.  We have set up
mailing list reports, web pages with historical logs, and send out
personal emails when a server goes offline or fails testing... and yet
with all of these tools available, I will mention to someone that their
server has been offline for a week, and they ask me why nobody mentioned
this to them sooner.  I honestly do not know what else we could possibly
do to help out.


On 07/04/2012 07:31 PM, Peter Green wrote:
> Hi Jeff,
>
> I'm not sure if I read your message correctly but I get the feeling
> you're
> not happy with me?
>
> I care if the wiki is down from the point of view that it is unavailable
> for all and I care about OpenNIC and it being a great project, maybe I
> used
> the word 'care' word wrongly.
>
> I don't think you should care 'too much' if my T2 is down (temporally),
> other than as I
> do about the wiki, that it effects the project.
>
> Why do you assume I haven't set up filters? I do filter those messages
> and
> I now have a folder full of them!
>
> Julian points out that people like to get these messages, I accept that,
> but I don't, but that's all fine, Julian and Alex have helped my out
> and I
> have the archives to refer to as I hoped, great!
>
> Peter :-)
>
> P.S. It's relevant to know that I didn't sign up to the 'reports'
> list, or
> the 'operations' one if I remember correctly.
>
>
> On 05.07.2012 02:14, Jeff Taylor wrote:
>
>> The T2 reports that are on the mailing list can be viewed from
>> http://www.opennicproject.org/t2log/however there is no archive of the
>> reports. Just go under the info menu, and you can view the last report
>> generated.
>>
>> Why should you care if the wiki is down? Well, why should I care if
>> your T2 is down? Its the same thing, I can't do anything about it. The
>> reports list is the place for all reports to go that affect
>> administrators of any opennic service. Some people may have more of an
>> interest in the general state of services on this project than others.
>> The information is simply put out there so everyone can be aware.
>> Complaining about getting information that doesn't affect you
>> specifically is like complaining that the weather channel's website
>> carries weather for cities other than your own... if you're not
>> interested in it, don't look at it. Just because you don't care about
>> it does not mean that others may not be interested.
>>
>> Why haven't you set up your email client to dump messages from that
>> mailing list into its own folder, and ignore the folder until you need
>> it? I would have thought everyone used sub-folders for each mailing
>> list they are subscribed to. I've got at least 20 different lists I get
>> email from - I can't imagine trying to sort through an inbox without
>> having the mailing lists all go to their own folders.
>>
>> On 07/03/2012 02:21 PM, Peter Green wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, Can all the dns-reports (and dns-operations) messages be made
>>> available online somewhere, maybe in the archive like discuss, or a
>>> private place where our membership login provides access? I would much
>>> rather refer to them when needed then get this relentless stream of
>>> irrelevant mail delivered to my inbox. What difference does it make to
>>> me if the wiki is down? I can't do anything about it, the system should
>>> send a message to Julian and Brian, not everyone. I'll monitor my
>>> servers and, if needed, refer to the archive (should it be made
>>> available) if I need to. Either way, unless someone can give me a good
>>> reason why I would want these messages coming directly to me, I am
>>> unsubscribing from the list as it is a pain and I can see no use for
>>> it. Peter On 03.07.2012 15:40, opennic AT linuxrulz.de [2]wrote:
>>>
>>>> --SERVICE-ALERT------------------- - - Hostaddress: 202.83.95.229 -
>>>> Hostname: ns21.opennic.glue - Service: HTTP Wiki - - - - - - - - - -
>>>> - - - - - - - - State: OK - Date: 2012-07-03 16:40:16 - Output: HTTP
>>>> OK: HTTP/1.1 200 OK - 6397 bytes in 1.236 second response time -
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