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[Jon Hebb <somebodyrocks AT gmail.com>]

I see nothing about "legal crap" in there
http://opennicproject.org/opennic-charter.

On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Panesar, Amrit <apanesar AT 4195tech.com>wrote:

> The funny thing is, the opennic charter has a clause about illegal crap as
> well. I too, am quite confused.
>
> On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Hospedaje Web y Servidores Dedicados <
> ventas AT dedicados.com.mx> wrote:
>
> > I think the "illegal" clause still being for the hosters, not for domain
> > registrant, as you say, when tld registrant is guilty about content user
> > gives to.
> >
> > Alex.
> >
> >
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> > Ing. Alejandro M.
> > -----------------------
> > Hospedaje Web y Servidores Dedicados
> > http://www.dedicados.com.mx
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> > ventas AT dedicados.com.mx
> > -----------------------
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Travis McCrea <me AT travismccrea.com>
> > Sender: discuss-bounces AT lists.opennicproject.org
> > Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2011 17:20:02
> > To: <discuss AT lists.opennicproject.org>
> > Reply-To: discuss AT lists.opennicproject.org
> > Subject: Re: [opennic-discuss] PETITION/VOTE: .box top level domain
> >
> > Eh it still has that "illegal activity" clause, and is now even MORE
> > vague because it doesn't say by which law you are operating under. There
> > are countries where warez sites are legal. There are other countries
> > where even speaking true facts about the leadership is punishable by
> > death... so what laws are we bound to? The United States is a typical
> > choice, but if we are held to the same legal standard as US domains then
> > I am still voting no against it because their legal standards are too
> > restrictive.
> >
> > I am not trying to be a dick, I just want to have a clear understanding
> > of whats going on. I did not get the email (or missed it) when this went
> > up for discussion. I would like us to hold off on the vote until these
> > things are addressed.
> > On Tue, 2011-08-09 at 00:28 +0200, Dominique Rehborn wrote:
> > > Here's an amendment of the .box charter regarding phrasing and
> > > considering a few feedbacks.
> > >
> > > Charter
> > >
> > > .box TLD - in the following document referred to as NIC.
> > >
> > > Proposal
> > > .box is a TLD meant as generic name space for general purposes like
> > > ICANN's .com, .org and .net TLD has been used (or misued by accident).
> > > It is not meant to replace .com, .org, .net.. on OpenNic but rather
> > > serve as a real general purpose Top level domain.
> > > a larger list of exceptions for abusive behavior and non-legitime
> > > contents is to be found in the policy to prevent disputes and criminal
> > > activity.
> > >
> > > Policy
> > >
> > > By Registering a NIC domain the Registrant agrees to the Policy.
> > >
> > > This Policy complies with OpenNIC Policies
> > > (http://wiki.opennic.glue/OpenNICPolicies) including following
> addition.
> > >
> > > Registration
> > > NIC domains can be registered by any individual or for an entity by an
> > > individual/natural person. Registrations may be challenged at any time
> > > if they are not held by an individual or if the holder cannot prove an
> > > outside relation justifying reservation of the name, to prevent
> > > "Cybersquatting". further exceptions are listed below.
> > >
> > > Limitations
> > > until further changes to the policy a registrant is allowed to hold a
> > > maximum of 15 domains, for larger amounts the registrant requires to
> > > become an OpenNic member.
> > >
> > > Activity
> > > NIC reserves the right to remove any domain not resolvable for more
> than
> > > a week.
> > >
> > > Nameserver Configuration
> > > NIC requires to setup a valid Zonefile, this includes a valid SOA and 2
> > NS.
> > >
> > > Non-Profit clause
> > > As this TLD is made available not for profit, domains (including
> > > subdomains) may not be transferred for compensation.
> > >
> > > Prohibited contents and behavior
> > > to limit a larger spectrum for abusive behavior the following is
> > > strictly forbidden, legitimate complaints regarding these activities
> > > will result in suspension and revocation of all appropriate domains:
> > >
> > > • general contents/activities considered illegal. this includes but is
> > > not limited to:
> > >   - spamming/cracking (including through non NIC systems)
> > >   - cracks/warez/malware/botnets/honeypots
> > > • contents considered illegal by the server locations laws.
> > > • SEO/marketing websites
> > > • pornographic, racists/extremist contents
> > >
> > > Privacy
> > >
> > > • Personal data will only be collected and used if required for the
> > > creation or modification of a Handle. The registrant is obligated to
> > > keep this information up to date. The Registrant's Email address will
> > > only be used for information regarding their registered domains, policy
> > > changes and major system changes.
> > > • NIC does not give any personal information to third parties, with the
> > > exception of OpenNIC as far as they are required to reasonably or
> forced
> > > by law.
> > > • The registrant has the right to information and a right to amend, to
> > > suspend or to delete his saved information. If deletion conflicts with
> a
> > > legal or contractual duty to save information, or other legal grounds,
> > > the information will be made inaccessible.
> > >
> > > Warranty and Liability
> > > NIC tries to be as reliable and responsible as possible, however there
> > > is no warranty for availability. For direct damages, secondary damages
> > > or lost profits due to technical problems and disturbances we assume no
> > > liability.
> > >
> > > In addition, the Registrant agrees to free NIC from all claims by third
> > > parties in regard to illegal content or activity. The exemption
> > > obligation includes liability for all legal defence costs.
> > >
> > > Updates
> > > Minor changes, changes which will not affect registered domains, to the
> > > policy can be made without notice in order to close loopholes quickly
> > > and responsibly.
> > > Changes which require to be voted on will be announced at least one
> week
> > > before taking effect.
> > >
> > > Sunrise Clause/Big Business clause
> > > For now, corporations, large enterprises (>50 employess) and financial
> > > entities are not allowed to expand their business under a NIC TLD. In
> > > case of a registered trademark, it is possible for the responsible to
> > > send a request to have their name registered by NIC and suspeneded for
> > > revervation or http forward to a given URL. (This process requires
> > > verification, any cost created by this process will be covered by the
> > > responsible in question).
> > > This clause will be removed once services have been proven stable.
> > > reason for temporarily exclusion is to have the number of registrants
> > > low at the beginning to ease administration and application
> development.
> > >
> > > On 08/08/2011 09:48 PM, Brian Koontz wrote:
> > > > I second the motion to bring this to a vote.  It's been open for
> > > > discussion for a week now.
> > > >
> > > >   --Brian
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Aug 08, 2011 at 02:39:37AM +0200, Dominique Rehborn wrote:
> > > >> Howdy folks,
> > > >>
> > > >> as proposed on 31th of july i hereby open the petition/vote for
> > > >> sponsoring the .box TLD using the following charter/policy, changes
> > have
> > > >> been marked by </removed> (only one section has been removed
> regarding
> > > >> labels, this would of course mean common sense now rules, thus the
> > > >> maximum amount is still limited by the appropriate rfc regarding
> > > >> hostnames), the vote is ending on 22th of august (2 weeks).
> > > >>
> > > >> feedback/suggestions regarding the charter are still welcomed but
> only
> > > >> considered after the vote has been passed.
> > > >>
> > > >> -------- Original Message --------
> > > >> Subject: [opennic-discuss] PROPOSAL: .box top level domain
> > > >> Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 16:29:17 +0200
> > > >> From: Dominique Rehborn <dominique AT boxnet.eu>
> > > >> Reply-To: discuss AT lists.opennicproject.org
> > > >> To: discuss AT lists.opennicproject.org
> > > >>
> > > >> Howdy OpenNIC folks,
> > > >>
> > > >> i am curious about running a tier 1 and would like to sponsor the
> top
> > > >> level domain .box, i started writing a charter, which still is a
> draft
> > > >> and requires your feedback, any comment appreciated.
> > > >>
> > > >> OpenNIC TLD Proposition
> > > >>
> > > >> Charter
> > > >>
> > > >> .box TLD - in the following document referred to as NIC.
> > > >>
> > > >> Proposal
> > > >> .box is a TLD meant as generic name space for general purposes like
> > > >> ICANN's .com, .org and .net TLD has been used (or misued by
> accident).
> > a
> > > >> larger list of exceptions for abusive behavior and non-legitime
> > contents
> > > >> is to be found in the policy to prevent disputes and criminal
> > activity.
> > > >>
> > > >> Policy
> > > >>
> > > >> By Registering a NIC domain the Registrant agrees to the Policy.
> > > >>
> > > >> This Policy complies with OpenNIC Policies
> > > >> (http://wiki.opennic.glue/OpenNICPolicies) including following
> > addition.
> > > >>
> > > >> Registration
> > > >> NIC domains can be registered by any individual or for an entity by
> an
> > > >> individual/natural person. Registrations may be challenged at any
> time
> > > >> if they are not held by an individual or if the holder cannot prove
> an
> > > >> outside relation justifying reservation of the name, to prevent
> > > >> "Cybersquatting". further exceptions are listed below.
> > > >>
> > > >> Limitations
> > > >> until further changes to the policy a registrant is allowed to hold
> a
> > > >> maximum of 10 domains (including a tollerance of 5) with exception
> to
> > > >> OpenNIC members, larger amounts of domain registrations require to
> > > >> request a quote including purpose of usage. (send your request to
> > > >> quote AT nic.box)
> > > >>
> > > >> <removed>
> > > >> domain names must be at least 3 characters long and can be at most
> 63
> > > >> characters long, a domain excluding TLD should never have more than
> 5
> > > >> labels to prevent dns spam.
> > > >> </removed>
> > > >>
> > > >> Activity
> > > >> NIC reserves the right to remove any domain not resolvable for more
> > than
> > > >> a week.
> > > >>
> > > >> Nameserver Configuration
> > > >> NIC requires to setup a valid Zonefile, this includes a valid SOA
> and
> > 2 NS.
> > > >>
> > > >> Non-Profit clause
> > > >> As this TLD is made available not for profit, domains (including
> > > >> subdomains) may not be transferred for compensation.
> > > >>
> > > >> Prohibited contents and behavior
> > > >> to limit a larger spectrum for abusive behavior the following is
> > > >> strictly forbidden, legitimate complaints regarding these activities
> > > >> will result in suspension and revocation of all appropriate domains:
> > > >>
> > > >> ??? general contents/activities considered illegal. this includes
> but
> > is
> > > >> not limited to:
> > > >> ??? spamming/cracking (including through non NIC systems)
> > > >> ??? cracks/warez/malware/botnets/honeypots
> > > >> ??? contents considered illegal by the registrants local laws.
> > > >> ??? SEO/marketing websites
> > > >> ??? pornographic, racists/extremist contents
> > > >> ??? torrent tracker
> > > >>
> > > >> Big Business clause
> > > >> corporations, large enterprises (>50 employess) and financial
> entities
> > > >> are not allowed to expand their business under a NIC TLD for now. In
> > > >> case of a registered trademark, it is possible for the responsible
> to
> > > >> send a request to have their name registered by NIC and suspeneded
> > > >> definitively or http forward to a given URL.
> > > >> (This process requires verification, any cost created by this
> process
> > > >> will be covered by the responsible in question).
> > > >>
> > > >> Privacy
> > > >>
> > > >> ??? Personal data will only be collected and used if required for
> the
> > > >> creation or modification of a Handle. The registrant is obligated to
> > > >> keep this information up to date. The Registrant's Email address
> will
> > > >> only be used for information regarding their registered domains,
> > policy
> > > >> changes and major system changes.
> > > >> ??? NIC does not give any personal information to third parties,
> with
> > the
> > > >> exception of OpenNIC as far as they are required to reasonably or
> > forced
> > > >> by law.
> > > >> ??? The registrant has the right to information and a right to
> amend,
> > to
> > > >> suspend or to delete his saved information. If deletion conflicts
> with
> > a
> > > >> legal or contractual duty to save information, or other legal
> grounds,
> > > >> the information will be made inaccessible.
> > > >>
> > > >> Warranty and Liability
> > > >> NIC tries to be as reliable and responsible as possible, however
> there
> > > >> is no warranty for availability. For direct damages, secondary
> damages
> > > >> or lost profits due to technical problems and disturbances we assume
> > no
> > > >> liability.
> > > >>
> > > >> In addition, the Registrant agrees to free NIC from all claims by
> > third
> > > >> parties in regard to illegal content or activity. The exemption
> > > >> obligation includes liability for all legal defence costs.
> > > >>
> > > >> Updates
> > > >> Minor changes, changes which will not affect registered domains, to
> > the
> > > >> policy can be made without notice in order to close loopholes
> quickly
> > > >> and responsibly.
> > > >> Changes which require to be voted on will be announced at least one
> > week
> > > >> before taking effect.
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Dominique Rehborn dominique AT boxnet.eu
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