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["Daniel Quintiliani" <danq AT runbox.com>]

For those who weren't there, we were discussing on IRC an old vote we 
supposedly made years ago (probably before I discovered it through 
Prism-Break) to make OpenNIC a federally registered nonprofit, and the vote 
passed. 

After I told them about a nonprofit I was involved with for years and briefly 
on the board of, which suffered a hostile takeover by a faction well 
connected to local politicians, I became even more suspicious, fearing that 
our votes wouldn't count due to the donors making the decisions.

But I was surprised to find out that not only was everyone unfamiliar with 
words like "itemized deductions", but they never heard of the term "501(c)3" 
since many were not familiar with US law. I told them this would be explained 
by their accountant and attorney.

They then told me that the nonprofit may not be based in the US, and may not 
require a charter and bylaws and keeping of years of records like a US 
federally registered nonprofit does, which I thought this discussion was a 
charter and bylaws, and then a politician shows up and calls for a chairman. 
Why shouldn't I smell a rat?

Note also that if a nonprofit was to be federally registered in the US and in 
other countries simultaneously, we'd need a really expensive attorney to make 
sure the laws work everywhere. Plus the idea of having a nonprofit without a 
charter and bylaws, if it is even approved for tax-deductible status by any 
government, might raise suspicion and call for an eventual audit (and 
possibly revoking tax-deductible status) don't you think?

Jonah said this was not intended to be a full charter. Keep all this in mind 
if you want to make it one.

--

-Dan Q

On Tue, 24 Oct 2017 13:16:07 -0500, Jonah Aragon <jonah AT triplebit.net> wrote:

> He is a lawyer, and he’s been around on IRC a bunch, and on the list a few 
> times. Don’t think it was a malicious suggestion, but I’m not entirely 
> clear on the reasoning behind it. 
> 
> Jonah
> 
> > On Oct 24, 2017, at 11:10 AM, Daniel Quintiliani <danq AT runbox.com> wrote:
> > 
> > I've never heard of you before, but given that you just showed up and 
> > claim to be a politician, and demanding a centralized organization, I 
> > smell a rat.
> > 
> > --
> > 
> > -Dan Q
> > 
> >> On Tue, 24 Oct 2017 16:57:34 +0200, "Jack Ternan" <jackist AT email.com> 
> >> wrote:
> >> 
> >> As a lawyer and former parliamentarian, I question how effective any of
> >> Jonah's proposals will be in the absence of a chair/speaker/presiding
> >> official. It might be worthwhile having someone serve in such a position
> >> for a monthly basis.
> > 
> > On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 3:39 PM, Jonah Aragon <jonah AT triplebit.net>
> > wrote:
> > 
> >> MODIFICATION — I’m changing Section IV
> >> 
> > 
> > 
> >> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 3:39 PM, Jonah Aragon <jonah AT triplebit.net> 
> >> wrote:
> >> possibility of filibustering. This section’s 1 day extension clause
> > 
> > 
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