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["Daniel Quintiliani" <danq AT runbox.com>]

Hi,

I agree that we should not act as ICANN domains and cut off access to 
neo-Nazi or other hateful material. This is the hosting provider's job and 
the idea of private companies "seizing" domain names is new, and I don't know 
how it's done for non-proxied domains given that the domains are leased from 
ICANN and there are no warrants from a court involved. Regardless, we should 
not use OpenNIC to push agendas. Hate is a very vague term, as Verax stated. 
People call my Twitter activity in opposition to radical Islam hateful, while 
I consider radical Islam violent. Likewise the mainstream Left often puts 
Christian leaders who interpret the Bible  literally on LGBT issues and 
pro-life Fox News personalities in the same category as neo-Nazis. But 
OpenNIC is not the Southern Poverty Law Center, and should not be engaging in 
censorship of any views. If there is illegal material hosted on an IP 
address, then it is the hosting provider's job to comply with the laws of 
various countries in consultation with their lawyers, not e.g. the 
maintainers of the .pirate or .indy TLDs to voluntarily carry out the demands 
of the copyright-extremist MPAA or anti-"fake-news" Donald Trump, 
respectively unless compelled to by a court of law.

--

-Dan Q


On Wed, 01 Nov 2017 12:20:04 -0400, Gitgud Software <gitgud AT tfwno.gf> wrote:

> Just to add to verax's response a bit, we'll respond to National
> Socialist content the same way we would Anarchist or Communist content.
> Any special scrutiny given any ideology as a whole would violate the
> premise and spirit of our charter, and threaten our ability to
> impartially govern the project and its registrants use of the name
> space.
> 
> Sites and their owners will be dealt with as individuals. Refer to
> verax on what activity or request constitute grounds for intervention.
> 
> On Wed, 2017-11-01 at 10:59 -0400, Verax wrote:
> > Al Beano wrote:
> > > How would you respond to National Socialist content, or incitements
> > > to
> > 
> > violence?
> > > 
> > 
> > "Incitement of violence" is a rather nebulous term that could be
> > applied
> > to just about anything.  I've personally made many sarcastic remarks
> > that could fit the description.  A great many social movements
> > through
> > history also would fit the bill, even ones we have holidays for.
> > 
> > The last few years have shown us many self-proclaimed "free
> > countries"
> > such as the US, Australia, Germany, Britain, etc. have all started to
> > use whatever pretense to clamp down on otherwise legal and socially
> > acceptable behavior, such as journalists doing their job, or people
> > making fun of politicians on the internet (how dare they).
> > 
> > Our intention is to deal with legal take-down orders, blatantly
> > illegal
> > content, and abuse of computer systems (botnets and the like).  If
> > someone wants to be angry on the internet, or be an internet nazi,
> > then
> > that's their problem.  It's not as though anyone is stopping them
> > from
> > doing that on ICANN domains anyways.
> > 
> > --Verax
> >