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  • From: Niles Rogoff <nilesrogoff AT gmail.com>
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  • Subject: [opennic-discuss] Fwd: [VOTE] Opinions and allegations in proposals
  • Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2018 02:53:38 +0000
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It appears I replied directly to Mr. Quintiliani. This was a mistake, and I am forwarding my message to the list.



-------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: [opennic-discuss] [VOTE] Opinions and allegations in proposals Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2018 02:51:16 +0000 From: Niles Rogoff <nilesrogoff AT gmail.com> To: Daniel Quintiliani <danq AT runbox.com>

The first two clauses are not specific enough. The third clause is hard
to enforce, and allegations should be known as long as they're not acted
on without evidence. Clause 4 bans ALL comments on proposals or votes
that match a certain hard-to-define criteria. I don't believe this is
how an open democracy should work.

I vote no to this proposal in its current form.

- Niles


On 08/09/2018 12:30 AM, Daniel Quintiliani wrote:
> I vote Yes.
>
> --
>
> -Dan Q
>
> On Wed, 08 Aug 2018 20:28:01 -0400 (EDT), "Daniel Quintiliani" <danq AT runbox.com> wrote:
>
>> Voting starts: 8/9/2018 0030 UTC
>> Voting ends: 8/16/2018 0030 UTC
>>
>> OpenNIC proposals shall not contain, in full or in part, language which:
>>
>> * Praises an OpenNIC member on basis of their character or actions,
>> * Condemns an OpenNIC member on basis of their character or actions,
>> * Makes allegations of unethical or illegal activity by an OpenNIC member, unless confirmed by a court of law, and/or
>> * Criticizes or comments on a proposal or vote, past or present, whether passed or failed, in which an OpenNIC member is criticized on basis of their character or actions.
>>
>> The proposal shall take effect immediately after passing.
>>
>> These rules are only applicable to proposals put up for vote, not to mailing list or IRC discussion.
>>
>> --
>>
>> -Dan Q
>>
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