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  • From: Philipp Schafft <lion AT lion.leolix.org>
  • To: discuss AT lists.opennicproject.org
  • Subject: Re: [opennic-discuss] [VOTE] Require English in proposals and votes
  • Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2018 22:34:54 +0000

Good afternoon,

On Mon, 2018-08-20 at 18:19 -0400, Daniel Quintiliani wrote:
> I really appreciate it. As I said, if I count your previous
> non-English vote when the vote says it wouldn't be accepted, the two
> trolls would complain that they didn't have a chance to vote the way
> they wanted it. In fact one of these trolls refused to respond to my
> question on what to call their English-language protest vote, so I'm
> just going to categorize it under "Invalid, spoiled, spoilt, and
> write-in votes" section because people seem to have "issues" with one
> of these words but not another.

Why is it all hate, fear, and disrespect when you write something?

Please name those persons.

Also, ever considered that people my reply to your e-mails when they
feel like it? The voting is still open. There is no need to rush.

Also maybe you want to answer to the mails that have been directed to
you before you complain about others not doing so.


> I also appreciate with your yea/nay proposal that you are attempting
> to do something about this. Even with your previous vote, you are
> protesting like an adult without trolling like a 16 year old kid.

Hate and disrespect.


> Plus, while Sympa is annoying and it's possible I messed up, I believe
> you broke the tie in your favor. The votes are counted Wednesday UTC,
> so that may change.

I hope they are counted by an independent party. As it's a base
requirement for democratic voting.

With best regards,


> --
>
> -Dan Q
>
> On Mon, 20 Aug 2018 23:06:23 +0100, Al Beano <albino AT autistici.org> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > Further to my previous email below and a discussion with Mr Quintiliani,
> > I have decided to amend my vote.
> >
> > Daniel refuses to acknowledge my non-English vote, and while I maintain
> > that this is not a valid position for him to hold, I don't think it's
> > worth arguing over petty technicalities. There was no problem with the
> > language used to cast votes in until one was created, and perhaps we can
> > just keep it that way.
> >
> > Therefore, I am amending my vote to NO.
> >
> > Regards
> > albino
> >
> > On 20/08/18 22:35, Al Beano wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > The existence of this motion implies that non-English votes ARE
> > > currently valid. I do not think that stating that "only English
> > > language votes shall be accepted" is acceptable, given that this
> > > motion is operating under the premise that non-English votes are
> > > accepted throughout OpenNIC. A person proposing a vote must not be
> > > allowed to alter the rules under which our democracy operates.
> > >
> > > Therefore, my vote is HEIN HEIN.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > albino
> > >
> > > On 15/08/18 01:41, Daniel Quintiliani wrote:
> > >> Voting starts: 8/15/2018 0040 UTC
> > >> Voting ends 8/22/2018 0040 UTC
> > >>
> > >> 1. All OpenNIC proposals put up for vote shall be in the English
> > >> language.
> > >> 2. All votes for OpenNIC proposals shall be in the English language,
> > >> and votes which are not in English shall be considered invalid.
> > >>
> > >> These rules are only applicable to proposals put up for vote, and to
> > >> the votes themselves. These rules are not applicable to discussions
> > >> on the mailing list or on IRC.
> > >>
> > >> The proposal shall take effect immediately after passing.
> > >>
> > >> This vote shall be done in "Aye/Yes" and "Nay/No" style. Only English
> > >> language votes shall be accepted.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >>
> > >> -Dan Q
> > >>
> > >>
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Philipp.
(Rah of PH2)



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