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Ah that makes sense. It still sucks, it was a really promising idea.


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On Friday, 01/30/26 at 10:34 Jeff Taylor <shdwdrgn AT sourpuss.net> wrote:
NewNations was never part of opennic, it was always a separate alt-root
that wanted to work together.  Then they went completely silent for a
few years while their website got hacked and everything fell apart.
They came back briefly, got some of the hacks removed from their website
and got their DNS servers running again, and then disappeared once more.

Their TLDs are being mirrored through NS2 because of the way they were
set up, but that doesn't mean I am actively in control of their
information or representing that it was a direct part of opennic.


On 1/29/26 14:47, obfuscation wrote:
> The new nations peering is definetky broken but I believed it was an 
> openNIC project rather than a partner one. I think if it's something we 
> have records of and managed then we should absolutly restore it and ensure 
> those domains are working and ready for use.
>
> The NewNations aspect of the alt root seems like something that would align 
> with openNICs core mission more than .neo for example. If it's just a 
> matter of assuming the project itself is dead and then taking it over, I'd 
> happily put up my hand and merge it into my proposal as it would align more 
> with my system.
>
> - WagonWheel.
>
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> On Friday, 01/30/26 at 04:27 Jeff Taylor <shdwdrgn AT sourpuss.net> wrote:
> There is quite a mess in the Tier 1 servers currently, which I think
> needs to be addressed.  ALL of the following servers are marked as
> offline due to no response or very limited response.  The big question
> here is, if the owners don't respond and get their servers back online,
> should we consider dropping these TLDs?
>
> NS3 (since Jan 2019) .neo -- neo
> This one is disabled, I assume they meant to come back?  The last zone
> update was in 2017.
>
> NS5 (offline since Apr 2024) -- verax
> No TLDs, this was just an extra T1 server in the Netherlands.
>
> NS9 (since Apr 2025) .o -- jonaharagon
> NS11 (since Apr 2024) .o -- jonaharagon
> Last zone update was 2024 and there are ZERO domains listed. Waiting to
> see if he responds on IRC.
>
> NS10 (since Dec 2025) .null and .oz -- mars
> Seems to be resolving all TLDs except their own.  Both TLD zones was
> last updated in December and have an extensive list of domains. This one
> is probably still alive and just needs some admin intervention.
>
> NS12 (since Jun 2020) .cyb -- sy, albino
> The last zone update was in 2019.  There is a decent list of domains
> registered, but I don't know if anyone still uses them?
>
> NS13 (since Oct 2023) .epic -- okashi_o
> I believe the last zone update for .epic was in 2020.  Again, no idea if
> anyone is still using these domains.
>
> NS14 (since Jun 2024) .chan -- OWNER UNKNOWN
> The last zone update for .chan was in 2019
>
> So at the very least, we should have a discussion about removing or
> re-homing .neo, .cyb, .epic, and .chan.  If there is still interest in
> these TLDs I can always add them to the registration server at be.libre
> or someone else can take over, but this would require all current domain
> owners to claim their domains so they could be re-registered from the
> new host.
>
> In addition, we should have a vote about removing peering with
> NewNations (ti uu te ku rm ko) since they have been broken for several
> years now.  Does anyone have any discussion about that before I start a
> new thread to being voting?
>
> The same applies for peering Emercoin (bazar coin emc lib).  I don't see
> that those domains are responding either, so I believe they should be
> removed.  Again, is there any discussion about this peer before I start
> a vote?
>
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