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[Peter Green <peter AT greenpete.co.uk>]

Interesting that there's an old piece of legislation that can't be over 
turned, they seem to be doing damn well at stuffing up the constitution. 

It's interesting to hear that the freeman on the land applies to Commonwealth 
countries, that gives me more of a direction to head in.

To be honest, I'm not sure I would change too much about my life if I found 
the freeman stuff to have validity, I live so simply and on a silly low 
income, a lot of stuff doesn't effect me. It's more the injustice of it all 
and "waking up" that drives me to learn more.

Is anyone familiar with Plutocracy?  I see that tying in very neatly with all 
this.

Peter 

Wanged from my Kaiser by a mischievous pixie!

Martin C <martin AT mchomenet.com> wrote:

>> only find stuff relating to Canada or the U.S. so am looking for U.K.
>> relevant articles
>Well, the savingtosuitorsclub.net directly applies to the U.S. because 
>of an old piece of legislation that cannot be overturned. Something 
>about Erie Doctrine.
>
>The "Freeman on the Land" material applies to Commonwealth countries, 
>such as Canada, Australia, New Zealand and of course, definitely the 
>U.K. I've seen some videos on youtube with people going through it a bit.
>
>My only concern is that there is heaps of documented successes with the 
>"saving to suitors" clause method, but only a handful of hearsay on the 
>Freeman on the Land stuff, to my knowledge. To avoid confusion, when 
>referring to "Freeman on the Land" theories, I mean the stuff that is 
>taught by Robert-Arthur: Menard (www.thinkfree.ca - website not working 
>right now) and the World Freeman Society (forgot website).
>
>The only Freeman on the Land stuff I have seen that worked, was some 
>generic contract and consent stuff that is shared among the many 
>sovereignty camps anyway, such as beating parking and speeding tickets.
>
>> My second thought is about "Common Law" and if that really applies over and
>> above "statutes"?
>Common Law is more aiming at Natural Law (such as do no harm to another, 
>do no harm to another's property and do not engage in fraud). Statutes 
>(which are not "law" but are given the force of law) are everything 
>above that.
>
>This is seen in places where you have a criminal law (damage done) and 
>civil law (no victim law).
>
>> I need to read up on http://www.savingtosuitorsclub.net so will leave my
>> contribution at that for now...
>It's a good place, and I'm researching on equivalents to be found in 
>local legislation.
>
>-- 
>Martin C.
>
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