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This being a mailing list, I'll assume you're not trolling.
I'm quite familiar with disability/welfare income. I'm
personally disabled and now living on Old Age Pension which
is the same amount except paid out of a different budget.
Conferring with people in the USA in the same situation,
I see they get more money there than I do in Canada.
Although I have sympathy for you, I also know that one can
have a decent life on a very low income and if one is
interested in internet activities it can certainly be done.
There is no need to indulge in the poor me game.

On that low income I can more than afford a decent internet
connection (3.5 Mbps), several high quality VOIP phone
services, shared hosting, as well as the rental of a dozen
small servers around the world. I also pay for 25 ICANN domains.
How do I do it? By not having a TV package like other people
do which also costs $100 a month. They do TV, I do internet.

The way I see it, the discussion here is about principles
and ideas, not about affordability.

Regards,
        Ole


On Sat, 10 Dec 2016 00:33:53 +0100
an0n1 AT riseup.net wrote:

> I realize I'm new here, but if I may, I'd like to add to
> this conversation as it's an important one to me. Picture
> this scenario: someone who scrapes by on "Social
> Security" of whatever form ones country provides - a
> pittance for those residing in the United States. They'd
> be forced to quite literally give up using OpenNIC DNS
> or, e.g. miss (n) meals, not pay rent on time, etc. So,
> as one living in the US who receives Social Security
> Disabilty "payments", which are incredibly low as I'd
> stopped, i.e. was no longer able to do so, "paying in to
> the system" via taxes (from a retail shop I both owned &
> operated) at an early age, my own "monthly reward" from
> the system is lower than most here would be able to
> imagine. If this is too much infornsuon for I apologize,
> but I felt it absolutely necessary to give a real world
> scenario, one out of many others in similar situations
> who are unable to share their own stories for lack of
> OpenNIC registration. Sincerely, Nadia.
> 
> kevin wrote:
> > Perhaps we're losing scope of OpenNIC vs any other
> > independent that  
> wants to operate as a TLD.
> > Continuing to use .LL as the basis.  If Libreland wants
> > to create a TLD,  
> then they can simply do that.  They do not need OpenNIC.
> The only thing that OpenNIC (or ICANN) provides, is
> incorporation into a larger user pool.  But if that isn't
> functional, then anyone who wants to access .ll would use
> Libreland DNS servers.
> > Nothing should change with OpenNIC as OpenNIC's mandate
> > remains the  
> same.  Anything additional to that is not the scope of
> OpenNIC.
> > Kevin
> > On Fri, 2016-12-09 at 14:26 -0600, Jonah Aragon wrote:  
> >> I agree, I personally wouldn't start charging for my
> >> domains. I'm just  
> saying people's expectations =/= OpenNIC policy, and we
> should allow operators that option if they so choose.
> >> Jonah
> >> On Dec 9, 2016 2:19 PM, "Maiyannah Bishop"
> >> <maiyannah.bishop AT postactiv.com> wrote:
> >>         Well, it's a service offered by other TLDs for
> >> free, so people  
> would expect a new OpenNIC TLD to be similar, whereas if
> you're offering something new that's paid, there would be
> no expectation.
> >>         -mb
> >>         On 2016-12-09 15:16, Jonah Aragon wrote:  
> >>         > I agree, although I fail to see how domain
> >>         > registration isn't  
> an added service, as the primary service provided for
> free is DNS resolution, not domain registrations.
> >>         > Jonah  
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