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[Anton Luka Šijanec <anton AT sijanec.eu>]

(sent to Jeff instead of to list at first, sorry) ... forwarding to list:

Hello!

Jeff Taylor je 16. 8. 25 ob 02:01 napisal:
> ns14.opennic.glue    (chan)    Online but no longer serving Opennic data 
> (last pass was Jun 2024)

I have ns14 (authoritative for chan). Can I just host an authoritative 
server for the zone without providing recursive resolving?

Domain registration is at: http://s.4a.si/chan.php

The server (188.230.215.50, 2a01:261:e80:4800::1) responds correctly to 
non-recursive queries and to AXFR queries, see pasted dig output below 
message.

But currently my server is not listed as master in ns0's SOA entry.

chan.			86400	IN	SOA	ns0.opennic.chan. hostmaster.opennic.chan. 
1556853233 7200 900 604800 86400

I don't know by which mechanism opennic slaves determine who is master 
for a given zone (perhaps by soa?), but it seems as if they are not 
fetching the zone from my server. For example ns2 reports this SOA (not 
ns14):

chan.			86400	IN	SOA	ns0.opennic.chan. hostmaster.opennic.chan. 
1556853233 7200 900 604800 86400

Is it perhaps a requirement to also be a recursive resolver for opennic 
domains or at least authoritative slave for all opennic TLDs to be 
qualified to be authoritative master of a TLD?

I unfortunately can't switch to opennic root, as this server operates on 
the real icann root currently ):

Regards
Anton

b:/etc/bind[0]# dig +nocomment +norecurse a.chan @188.230.215.50

; <<>> DiG 9.16.50 <<>> +nocomment +norecurse a.chan @188.230.215.50
;; global options: +cmd
;a.chan.                                IN      A
a.chan.                 420     IN      NS      ns1.sijanec.org.
;; Query time: 0 msec
;; SERVER: 188.230.215.50#53(188.230.215.50)
;; WHEN: Mon Aug 18 10:09:06 CEST 2025
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 92

b:/etc/bind[0]#

b:/etc/bind[0]# dig axfr +nocomment +norecurse chan @188.230.215.50 | head

; <<>> DiG 9.16.50 <<>> axfr +nocomment +norecurse chan @188.230.215.50
;; global options: +cmd
chan.			300	IN	SOA	ns14.opennic.glue. anton.sijanec.eu. 530 301 299 
31556926 30
chan.                   300     IN      NS      ns2.opennic.glue.
chan.                   300     IN      NS      ns4.opennic.glue.
chan.                   300     IN      NS      ns5.opennic.glue.
chan.                   300     IN      NS      ns6.opennic.glue.
chan.                   300     IN      NS      ns8.opennic.glue.
chan.                   300     IN      NS      ns9.opennic.glue.
b:/etc/bind[0]# dig axfr +nocomment +norecurse chan @188.230.215.50 | tail
com.chan.		30	IN	RRSIG	NSEC 14 2 30 20250914034258 20250815030004 61820 
chan. 8eCfpfO+LPJAKvcRKIant8opXQLQrmEbre8AqKkDtQ+Spjs2hPhtv6SS 
LBF8cluF/j1oZXDR8wwpjAMcq9gKdDdjlYdIutnhczHFjhNw0i8xN7pv yfV6Iap4YR9YlRM/
mephy.chan.		30	IN	RRSIG	NSEC 14 2 30 20250914034258 20250815030004 
61820 chan. 3cuLVNC0xBNuP16vugfXOjcNAdBItnU9MNNoTDoUAaIz/mHhw+AkqrLr 
41MvuerIB3d8XBl4hLji/iPhPAFH58ktuhEHs1uMQWxWiUabQlmj06jy pqKEnV5CjgPSTju0
mephy.chan.             30      IN      NSEC    chan. NS RRSIG NSEC
mephy.chan.             420     IN      NS      ns1chan.sijanec.org.
chan.			300	IN	SOA	ns14.opennic.glue. anton.sijanec.eu. 530 301 299 
31556926 30
;; Query time: 0 msec
;; SERVER: 188.230.215.50#53(188.230.215.50)
;; WHEN: Mon Aug 18 10:09:50 CEST 2025
;; XFR size: 37 records (messages 1, bytes 2432)

b:/etc/bind[0]#