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[krystal <krystal AT devnull.net>]

Jeff,

I've been inactive in OpenNIC for a _long_ time, but I can put some time 
in now and have the resources to host some stuff if OpenNIC needs 
anything like that.

I'll look through the current site to see how stuff works these days.

Email me directly if you want to talk.

Cheers,
-robin

On 8/15/25 18:41, Jeff Taylor wrote:
> Yeah I think the real problem is that there are very few of us left here 
> who really even know how everything interconnects.  I wrote a huge 
> amount of the back-end stuff to try and ensure that zones would continue 
> to be severed even when their hosts went down.  Apparently most of my 
> automation stuff has worked well since it hasn't been touched in a 
> decade or more but continues to make updates.
>
> I just don't have the energy for it any more, other than maintaining 
> what's already here, and although folks have asked about helping out I'm 
> not really sure where to point them.  A good start would be to fix up 
> the web page and wiki again since there's a lot of outdated material. 
> After that, the report page could use an overhaul to better reflect the 
> status of the servers.  I even have a much more thorough test suit I 
> wrote (https://servers.opennicproject.org/srvtest3/) which I intended to 
> be decentralized for the testing and then the results sent back to the 
> report server, but I don't remember how far I got in sending the records 
> back and forth.
>
> There's a lot that could be done.  There's a HUGE amount that *needs* to 
> be done.  I just don't know if there's enough interest to bring it all 
> back to life.
>
>
> On 8/15/25 19:09, Kusoneko wrote:
> > Aug 15, 2025 20:02:13 Jeff Taylor <shdwdrgn AT sourpuss.net>:
> >
> > > I was looking through the lists and there quite a few Tier1 servers 
> > > which have gone dark.  This likely means their associated TLDs are 
> > > also no longer operational (although the records are still being 
> > > served from other servers).
> > >
> > > ns3.opennic.glue    (neo)    Disabled in 2019
> > > ns11.opennic.glue    (o)    Last responded April 2024
> > > ns12.opennic.glue    (cyb)    Last responded June 2020
> > > ns13.opennic.glue    (epic)    Last responded October 2023
> > > ns14.opennic.glue    (chan)    Online but no longer serving Opennic 
> > > data (last pass was Jun 2024)
> > >
> > > Additionally NS5 and NS9 are unresponsive, but do not serve any TLDs 
> > > (possibly should be removed then?)
> > >
> > > I have also heard that the admin of .null/.oz has not been responding 
> > > to requests for new TLDs even though their server is still operational.
> > >
> > > Is anyone still trying to use domains under any of these TLDs?  Are 
> > > there enough people watching the mailing list to consider taking a 
> > > vote on shutting down and removing these servers from our info?
> > >
> > > Unfortunately what this means is that other than .fur on NS4/ 
> > > NS8, .bbs on NS6,  and the various TLDs I am running on NS2, 
> > > everything else is dead.  For some reason we are also still peering 
> > > NewNations domains even though the last I heard their website had 
> > > been massively hacked and they were unresponsive.  I know there's a 
> > > lot of things that need cleaned up around here, but I feel like the 
> > > dns entries should at least be current?
...
> > OpenNIC is a thing I've found very interesting and that I support, in 
> > concept. Decentralizing as much of the Internet is a laudable goal, 
> > however it seems to me that much of the OpenNIC TLD's and tier 1 
> > servers have been dead for a relatively long time and should be either 
> > moved so a different operator hosts them or consolidated under one of 
> > the few still active (as annoying as that is to my decentralization 
> > beliefs), as it's objectively better for it to be available and more 
> > centralized than dead and decentralized. Besides, the project in 
> > itself feels like it's halfway in the grave and needs people to start 
> > caring about it again. E.g.: I've been subscribed to this list for the 
> > past few years and have seen about 3 threads, and out of those only 1 
> > received any activity. Something definitely should be done but at this 
> > point I'm not sure what or even who is even still operating or caring 
> > at all about this project....

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