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[Jeff Taylor <shdwdrgn AT sourpuss.net>]

Yeah I think the real problem is that there are very few of us left here 
who really even know how everything interconnects.  I wrote a huge 
amount of the back-end stuff to try and ensure that zones would continue 
to be severed even when their hosts went down.  Apparently most of my 
automation stuff has worked well since it hasn't been touched in a 
decade or more but continues to make updates.

I just don't have the energy for it any more, other than maintaining 
what's already here, and although folks have asked about helping out I'm 
not really sure where to point them.  A good start would be to fix up 
the web page and wiki again since there's a lot of outdated material.  
After that, the report page could use an overhaul to better reflect the 
status of the servers.  I even have a much more thorough test suit I 
wrote (https://servers.opennicproject.org/srvtest3/) which I intended to 
be decentralized for the testing and then the results sent back to the 
report server, but I don't remember how far I got in sending the records 
back and forth.

There's a lot that could be done.  There's a HUGE amount that *needs* to 
be done.  I just don't know if there's enough interest to bring it all 
back to life.


On 8/15/25 19:09, Kusoneko wrote:
> Aug 15, 2025 20:02:13 Jeff Taylor <shdwdrgn AT sourpuss.net>:
>
> > I was looking through the lists and there quite a few Tier1 servers which 
> > have gone dark.  This likely means their associated TLDs are also no longer 
> > operational (although the records are still being served from other servers).
> >
> > ns3.opennic.glue    (neo)    Disabled in 2019
> > ns11.opennic.glue    (o)    Last responded April 2024
> > ns12.opennic.glue    (cyb)    Last responded June 2020
> > ns13.opennic.glue    (epic)    Last responded October 2023
> > ns14.opennic.glue    (chan)    Online but no longer serving Opennic data 
> > (last pass was Jun 2024)
> >
> > Additionally NS5 and NS9 are unresponsive, but do not serve any TLDs 
> > (possibly should be removed then?)
> >
> > I have also heard that the admin of .null/.oz has not been responding to 
> > requests for new TLDs even though their server is still operational.
> >
> > Is anyone still trying to use domains under any of these TLDs?  Are there 
> > enough people watching the mailing list to consider taking a vote on shutting 
> > down and removing these servers from our info?
> >
> > Unfortunately what this means is that other than .fur on NS4/NS8, .bbs on 
> > NS6,  and the various TLDs I am running on NS2, everything else is dead.  For 
> > some reason we are also still peering NewNations domains even though the last 
> > I heard their website had been massively hacked and they were unresponsive.  
> > I know there's a lot of things that need cleaned up around here, but I feel 
> > like the dns entries should at least be current?
> >
> >
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> OpenNIC is a thing I've found very interesting and that I support, in 
> concept. Decentralizing as much of the Internet is a laudable goal, however 
> it seems to me that much of the OpenNIC TLD's and tier 1 servers have been 
> dead for a relatively long time and should be either moved so a different 
> operator hosts them or consolidated under one of the few still active (as 
> annoying as that is to my decentralization beliefs), as it's objectively 
> better for it to be available and more centralized than dead and 
> decentralized. Besides, the project in itself feels like it's halfway in the 
> grave and needs people to start caring about it again. E.g.: I've been 
> subscribed to this list for the past few years and have seen about 3 threads, 
> and out of those only 1 received any activity. Something definitely should be 
> done but at this point I'm not sure what or even who is even still operating 
> or caring at all about this project.
>
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