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  • From: Guillaume Parent <gparent AT gparent.org>
  • To: discuss AT lists.opennicproject.org
  • Subject: Re: [opennic-discuss] I love how Brian says "OpenNIC activities" like there's something questionable about it
  • Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 01:54:58 -0400

I have to agree somewhat with Alex here, it is completely ridiculous of the ISP to not help Brian and disconnect him when they are in a position to provide a level of support that is considered minimal by many. Anyone can be the target of various internet attacks.


On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 12:05 AM, Alex M (Coyo) <coyo AT darkdna.net> wrote:
Um, yes, yes you did.

I'm not questioning Brian's commitment to the project. That was never my point, intention, or something I'd even entertain.

If you actually read my emails, you'd have noticed that I'm a huge fan of the project independently of my admiration of you, Alex.

I'm going to assume you're sleep deprived or something, because I really believed you knew me better than to be that ungrateful to Brian.

Brian has done more for OpenNIC than anyone could possible ask of him, much less expect of him.

I do not expect anything more.

Yes, it would be personally be preferable to give the incompetant service providers an inch of legitimacy to their claim that what we do here, from our own personal expense, could possibly be illegitimate.

My standards are physically impossible, and I do not expect ANYONE to ever meet them. It is unfair to anyone who's human.

Brian has done much more than necessary to win my admiration.

It was NEVER my intention to imply that Brian is not devoted to OpenNIC, or is not committed enough. I could not ask more from any mere mortal.

I hope that you do not actually believe I would be that ungrateful and disrespectful to Brian, and you are merely sleep deprived.


On 03/16/2013 08:16 PM, Alex Hanselka wrote:
I'm going to have to question if you are seriously calling Brian out as if he hates OpenNIC.  Perhaps you misunderstood the previous email or your subject was misleading because Brian *loves* OpenNIC.  He has been with the project from the beginning (10 years or something like that?) and I have known him for 7 of those years. You seem to be reading too much into the term activities.  I run important crap on my server and yet they are still activities.

While it is possible I misinterpreted this email as well, I kindly suggest that we all be mindful of calling people out on this mailing list.

Thanks.
Alex Hanselka

On 03/16/13 01:10 PM, Alex M (Coyo) wrote:
Because anyone who thinks there's anything wrong with OpenNIC can hang themselves.

We're more responsible and conscientious with our nameservers than pretty much anyone else on the planet. Anyone who questions our legitimacy can do the gene pool a favor and suicide, because they are worthless, useless, and unnecessary individuals who are a burden to anyone forced to interact with them.

I created a new thread to discuss the prospect of constructing our own ISP complete with autonomous system number and BGP over MPLS peering, because I did not wish to derail Brain's apology for human scum being liable and accountable for taking down his nameservers.

If we constructed our own ISP and eventually achieved teir 2 status, owned and/or hosted our own datacenters, and had one or more residential and business broadband divisions, then the "big boys" as Brian put it would be forced to peer with us, or be held legally accountable for disrupting critical infrastructure and threatening national security.

They will burn.


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