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- From: Kenny Taylor <kennytaylor AT runbox.com>
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- Subject: Re: [opennic-discuss] New domain to watch out for abuse - ddostheinter.net
- Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 09:11:17 -0700
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On my own domains, I have never expected any level of privacy when I create
DNS records. They're public and I'm putting them out there for the world to
use.
On the DNS server side, if we're looking at logs with obsfucated IP addresses
and see a questionable pattern, like constant ripe.net ANY queries, it seems
reasonable to investigate further with the goal of blocking the abusive
traffic.
Ultimately, the end user has to decide whether to trust the DNS server admin.
If we say we obsfucate logs, they put faith in us to do so. If we say raw
logs may be reviewed solely to investigate abuse, it's also a matter of faith
in the admin.
I think if we stick to that strict review only to mitigate abuse policy,
we're still upholding our commitment to end-user privacy.
Guillaume Parent <gparent AT gparent.org> wrote:
>You can't avoid the privacy violation here. Either we monitor our
>servers
>and we have to occasionally look at record names and IP addresses, or
>we
>don't monitor our servers and some of us get shut down for being
>internet
>bastards.
>
>
>On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 11:23 AM, Alex Nordlund
><deep.alexander AT gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Quinn Wood
><wood.quinn.s AT gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 1:17 AM, Julian DeMarchi
>>> <julian AT jdcomputers.com.au> wrote:
>>> > Why would someone have 511 A records for @....
>>> >
>>> You've completely missed the point. The point is my distaste with
>>> someone looking through domain requests and the subsequent advice to
>>> block access to one just because it's name looked fishy.
>>>
>>> If the type of query was what was being acted on, it would have
>>> already been in a filter and the complaint would have never been
>made.
>>> It's a privacy violation masquerading as ok because malicious
>behavior
>>> was found..
>>
>>
>> How is it a privacy violation if it's found on the person's (I quote)
>*personal
>> closed resolver*?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Alex
>>
>
>
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- Re: [opennic-discuss] New domain to watch out for abuse - ddostheinter.net, (continued)
- Re: [opennic-discuss] New domain to watch out for abuse - ddostheinter.net, Julian DeMarchi, 06/11/2013
- Re: [opennic-discuss] New domain to watch out for abuse - ddostheinter.net, Alex M (Coyo), 06/11/2013
- Re: [opennic-discuss] New domain to watch out for abuse - ddostheinter.net, Julian DeMarchi, 06/11/2013
- Re: [opennic-discuss] New domain to watch out for abuse - ddostheinter.net, Alex M (Coyo), 06/11/2013
- Re: [opennic-discuss] New domain to watch out for abuse - ddostheinter.net, Julian DeMarchi, 06/11/2013
- Re: [opennic-discuss] New domain to watch out for abuse - ddostheinter.net, Kenny Taylor, 06/11/2013
- Re: [opennic-discuss] New domain to watch out for abuse - ddostheinter.net, Julian DeMarchi, 06/11/2013
- Re: [opennic-discuss] New domain to watch out for abuse - ddostheinter.net, Alex M (Coyo), 06/11/2013
- Re: [opennic-discuss] New domain to watch out for abuse - ddostheinter.net, Julian DeMarchi, 06/11/2013
- Re: [opennic-discuss] New domain to watch out for abuse - ddostheinter.net, Quinn Wood, 06/11/2013
- Re: [opennic-discuss] New domain to watch out for abuse - ddostheinter.net, Alex Nordlund, 06/11/2013
- Re: [opennic-discuss] New domain to watch out for abuse - ddostheinter.net, Guillaume Parent, 06/11/2013
- Re: [opennic-discuss] New domain to watch out for abuse - ddostheinter.net, Kenny Taylor, 06/11/2013
- Re: [opennic-discuss] New domain to watch out for abuse - ddostheinter.net, Chris S (Pei), 06/11/2013
- Re: [opennic-discuss] New domain to watch out for abuse - ddostheinter.net, Quinn Wood, 06/11/2013
- Re: [opennic-discuss] New domain to watch out for abuse - ddostheinter.net, Guillaume Parent, 06/11/2013
- Re: [opennic-discuss] New domain to watch out for abuse - ddostheinter.net, Guillaume Parent, 06/11/2013
- Re: [opennic-discuss] New domain to watch out for abuse - ddostheinter.net, Alex Nordlund, 06/11/2013
- Re: [opennic-discuss] New domain to watch out for abuse - ddostheinter.net, Alex M (Coyo), 06/11/2013
- Re: [opennic-discuss] New domain to watch out for abuse - ddostheinter.net, Julian DeMarchi, 06/11/2013
- Re: [opennic-discuss] New domain to watch out for abuse - ddostheinter.net, Quinn Wood, 06/11/2013
- Re: [opennic-discuss] New domain to watch out for abuse - ddostheinter.net, Julian DeMarchi, 06/11/2013
- RE: [opennic-discuss] New domain to watch out for abuse - ddostheinter.net, John Kozlowski (ShofarDomain.com), 06/11/2013
- Re: [opennic-discuss] New domain to watch out for abuse - ddostheinter.net, Quinn Wood, 06/11/2013
- Re: [opennic-discuss] New domain to watch out for abuse - ddostheinter.net, Julian DeMarchi, 06/11/2013
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