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> How about Atlassian’s suite of products (Confluence, Bitbucket, Jira, etc)?
Don't get me wrong, but, I work at a large company that utilizes many 
Atlassian products, mainly the ones listed by you: Confluence, Bitbucket, 
Jira.

In fact, we migrated away from Bitbucket to GitHub due to *SO* many issues 
that we had in the past, and we're planning on migrating away from Confluence 
and Jira as well because they both keep going down so often (hosted service) 
and Confluence has way too many bugs and we're most of our time just trying 
to work around the bugs that we experience with Atlassian products (hosted 
and self-hosted) - ever tried to edit a normal table in Confluence? Have fun 
fucking up your entire page and fixing it later on.

Atlassian products are IMHO just overkill with too many features and too many 
things that can go wrong and break other things at any possible time - fixing 
the bugs that happen using Atlassian products means that we invest more time 
into it than actually running our own software like DokuWiki.

I also think that we should not migrate *to* hosted, closed source services 
but instead migrate *away* from them because that allows us to implement our 
own customizations and modifications. Take our wiki mirror on GitHub for 
example, there would *never* a possibility we can set up a mirror like this 
with Confluence: https://github.com/opennic/wikipages

If you suggest a good product like AWS ("just works"), Netlify or GitHub, 
they all seem good and I've never had issues with them but I loathe Atlassian 
for how they keep breaking the way our team functions and they don't give a 
f*** about it.

Note: I can probably write a book with the amount of bugs I discovered using 
Atlassian products, reported to them and never got them to fix it. We all 
(Mac, Windows and Linux users) keep getting told that we use the product 
wrong and we're by now not even expecting any kind of support from them 
anymore.