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- From: Jonah Aragon <jonah AT opennic.org>
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- Subject: Re: [opennic-discuss] [opinion] Corporate strategies yields corporate results
- Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2018 20:01:50 -0500
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Yes. In my opinion, OpenNIC’s purpose was to be a user-controlled alternative
to ICANN. The problem with ICANN wasn’t the rules they implemented
necessarily, but the opaque decision-making process behind them, and their
clear money grabbing practices. Not to mention their status as a monopoly on
the domain name system.
Developing an actual organizational structure is our path to becoming a
serious alternative to ICANN (as a related reminder, we did already vote to
form a 501(c)(3) organization, although that hasn’t materialized as of yet).
I know a lot of people here seem to be content with the status quo, but it’s
time to get back to our original purpose of building a serious competitor.
Our current setup can be achieved by anybody with a computer and 5 minutes to
install BIND9. If OpenNIC is an organization in name only, if we aren’t
willing to enact policies that will help us form a united cause against
ICANN, why does OpenNIC need to exist at all?
Jonah
> On Jul 25, 2018, at 12:55 PM, Daniel Quintiliani <danq AT runbox.com> wrote:
>
> I've only been involved in OpenNIC since Prism-Break (2013 according to the
> mailing list archives), but to my knowledge OpenNIC was created to allow
> democratic, non-secret decision making as opposed to ICANN, right?
>
> --
>
> -Dan Q
>
> On Sun, 22 Jul 2018 11:36:57 -0500, kevin <krattai AT gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I've just been thinking about a problem with another community I'm
>> involved in and while working through possible solutions, I remembered
>> that corporate strategies yields corporate results.
>>
>> As an original group of volunteerists, it's odd to look at the way
>> openNIC has progressed in some areas, especially for a group that I
>> believe wanted to get away from the bureaucracy that resulted in ICANN.
>>
>> I'm not opposed to voting for things as a way to maintain focus on
>> certain activities that will move a community forward, but when a vote
>> is about developing a bureaucratic and corporate structure, it really
>> doesn't make sense for a group of decentralized volunteerists. In
>> fact, it can be highly detrimental to such a group activity. A lot of
>> some of the more current "decisions" the group has voted on and the
>> direction of much of our documentation, especially as "rules" rather
>> than "guidelines", I wonder what the end result of openNIC might be, in
>> relation to ICANN.
>>
>> Anyhow, I just wanted to put that out there and find if maybe there's
>> others active in the group who are thinking like I am, or if I'm really
>> just an outlier in the community.
>>
>> Kevin
>
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- [opennic-discuss] [opinion] Corporate strategies yields corporate results, kevin, 07/22/2018
- Re: [opennic-discuss] [opinion] Corporate strategies yields corporate results, Daniel Quintiliani, 07/25/2018
- Re: [opennic-discuss] [opinion] Corporate strategies yields corporate results, Jonah Aragon, 07/26/2018
- Re: [opennic-discuss] [opinion] Corporate strategies yields corporate results, kevin, 07/26/2018
- Re: [opennic-discuss] [opinion] Corporate strategies yields corporate results, Jonah Aragon, 07/26/2018
- Re: [opennic-discuss] [opinion] Corporate strategies yields corporate results, Daniel Quintiliani, 07/26/2018
- Re: [opennic-discuss] [opinion] Corporate strategies yields corporate results, Jonah Aragon, 07/26/2018
- Re: [opennic-discuss] [opinion] Corporate strategies yields corporate results, Daniel Quintiliani, 07/26/2018
- Re: [opennic-discuss] [opinion] Corporate strategies yields corporate results, Daniel Quintiliani, 07/26/2018
- Re: [opennic-discuss] [opinion] Corporate strategies yields corporate results, vv, 07/26/2018
- Re: [opennic-discuss] [opinion] Corporate strategies yields corporate results, Jonah Aragon, 07/27/2018
- Re: [opennic-discuss] [opinion] Corporate strategies yields corporate results, Daniel Quintiliani, 07/27/2018
- Re: [opennic-discuss] [opinion] Corporate strategies yields corporate results, Daniel Quintiliani, 07/26/2018
- Re: [opennic-discuss] [opinion] Corporate strategies yields corporate results, Jonah Aragon, 07/26/2018
- Re: [opennic-discuss] [opinion] Corporate strategies yields corporate results, kevin, 07/26/2018
- Re: [opennic-discuss] [opinion] Corporate strategies yields corporate results, Jonah Aragon, 07/26/2018
- Re: [opennic-discuss] [opinion] Corporate strategies yields corporate results, Daniel Quintiliani, 07/25/2018
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