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[Jonah Aragon <jonah AT opennic.org>]

Perhaps I’m in the minority then? Although picking from extremely outdated 
material that doesn’t seem to reflect the main project page (does anyone have 
an opennic.glue archive?) hardly seems like the best evidence. But is this 
all anyone aspires to be, some experimental discussion group with no clear 
focus or motives besides running slightly different name servers than 
everybody else?

There’s no reason for anybody to trust OpenNIC or our servers. There’s no 
motivation to keep our services running. There’s nothing preventing takeovers 
or attacks on our DNS infrastructure by bad actors. OpenNIC is, as far as I 
know, the only alternative to ICANN with any significant following, why don’t 
we treat ourselves as seriously as that deserves?

Jonah

> On Jul 25, 2018, at 9:09 PM, kevin <krattai AT gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Why openNIC?
> 
> https://web.archive.org/web/20080217222644/http://www.opennicproject.or
> g:80/en/overview.html
> 
> 
> On Wed, 2018-07-25 at 20:01 -0500, Jonah Aragon wrote:
>> Yes. In my opinion, OpenNIC’s purpose was to be a user-controlled
>> alternative to ICANN. The problem with ICANN wasn’t the rules they
>> implemented necessarily, but the opaque decision-making process
>> behind them, and their clear money grabbing practices. Not to mention
>> their status as a monopoly on the domain name system.
>> 
>> Developing an actual organizational structure is our path to becoming
>> a serious alternative to ICANN (as a related reminder, we did already
>> vote to form a 501(c)(3) organization, although that hasn’t
>> materialized as of yet). I know a lot of people here seem to be
>> content with the status quo, but it’s time to get back to our
>> original purpose of building a serious competitor.
>> 
>> Our current setup can be achieved by anybody with a computer and 5
>> minutes to install BIND9. If OpenNIC is an organization in name only,
>> if we aren’t willing to enact policies that will help us form a
>> united cause against ICANN, why does OpenNIC need to exist at all? 
>> 
>> Jonah
>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jul 25, 2018, at 12:55 PM, Daniel Quintiliani <danq AT runbox.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've only been involved in OpenNIC since Prism-Break (2013
>>> according to the mailing list archives), but to my knowledge
>>> OpenNIC was created to allow democratic, non-secret decision making
>>> as opposed to ICANN, right?
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> -Dan Q
>>> 
>>> On Sun, 22 Jul 2018 11:36:57 -0500, kevin <krattai AT gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I've just been thinking about a problem with another community
>>>> I'm
>>>> involved in and while working through possible solutions, I
>>>> remembered
>>>> that corporate strategies yields corporate results.
>>>> 
>>>> As an original group of volunteerists, it's odd to look at the
>>>> way
>>>> openNIC has progressed in some areas, especially for a group that
>>>> I
>>>> believe wanted to get away from the bureaucracy that resulted in
>>>> ICANN.
>>>> 
>>>> I'm not opposed to voting for things as a way to maintain focus
>>>> on
>>>> certain activities that will move a community forward, but when a
>>>> vote
>>>> is about developing a bureaucratic and corporate structure, it
>>>> really
>>>> doesn't make sense for a group of decentralized
>>>> volunteerists.  In
>>>> fact, it can be highly detrimental to such a group activity.  A
>>>> lot of
>>>> some of the more current "decisions" the group has voted on and
>>>> the
>>>> direction of much of our documentation, especially as "rules"
>>>> rather
>>>> than "guidelines", I wonder what the end result of openNIC might
>>>> be, in
>>>> relation to ICANN.
>>>> 
>>>> Anyhow, I just wanted to put that out there and find if maybe
>>>> there's
>>>> others active in the group who are thinking like I am, or if I'm
>>>> really
>>>> just an outlier in the community.
>>>> 
>>>> Kevin
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