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Re: [opennic-discuss] U.S. Government Shuts Down 84, 000 Websites, 'By Mistake'


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  • From: Andrew Norton <ktetch AT gmail.com>
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  • Subject: Re: [opennic-discuss] U.S. Government Shuts Down 84, 000 Websites, 'By Mistake'
  • Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 23:41:15 -0500
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On 2/18/2011 11:32 PM, Larry Brower wrote:
> On 02/18/2011 10:20 PM, mike wrote:
>> Sorry, I should have been more specific, I mean they are seizing without
>> *legal* warrants. The Constitution, on which the Constitutional Republic of
>> The United States of America is based in law, clearly states what
>> constitutes a warrant, I think if you look closely these so called
>> "warrants" do not hold water. That is, if you agree that the U.S.
>> Constitution, has yet to be over-turned (not that there are not a heck of a
>> lot of forces attempting to do that), and still holds as the supreme law of
>> the land. I can write right now "Warrant" on a piece of paper and pay
>> somebody who swears to be a judge to sign it, and then I can go and seize
>> property based on that, but does that make it legal? Same thing.
>
>
>
> I see what you are saying now. Since we haven't seen the warrant's we
> can't really say if it is valid nor are we qualified to do so (Unless
> you are an attorney ?). In either event a warrant drawn up by .gov and
> signed by a siting judge is normally enforceable meaning they can seize
> the domain. Once the organizations attorney(s) become involved the story
> may change but until then the registrar has no choice but to comply.

Maybe not this one, but some of the past ones, we have.

Here's the application for the Torrentfinder seizure. LOTS of mistakes,
including using some torrentfreak articles (I work for torrentfreak) as
evidence.
http://torrentfreak.com/us-government-made-painful-mistakes-in-torrent-finder-seizure-101217/

I doubt the warrant in this case was any more accurate than that one.

K`Tetch

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