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- From: Psilo <dns AT psilo.org>
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- Subject: Re: [opennic-discuss] Status of the BZH zone
- Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 13:22:43 +0200
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I disagree.
I think, OpenNIC, as a non-profit organization, which is trying to change
the way internet TLDs are managed today, by creating an alternative and more
open solution, shouldn't set up arbitrary rules like this.
In my opinion, there are two things that I think should become a "good
practice" for OpenNIC.
First, about the vote for new TLDs. I agree that voting for the decision is
a good thing, but one shouldn't make his decision based on "I like it or
not". I think we just have to write some clear rules, and vote based on
whether we think the new TLD charter respects the rules or not. This would
be more fair.
Note that we can create some "TLD suspension rules" such as "OpenNIC should
be able to contact the TLD manager easily", "the TLD root DNS must be
reliable", "some domains have to be registered and pointing to valid IP
addresses", etc. Then if a TLD like BZH breaks one or several of these
rules, we can vote to suspend the TLD, and give the TLD manager a grace
period before we remove it from OpenNIC...
Now, about the TLD charters. I really think that one shouldn't decide of
what is allowed or what is forbidden based on his personal feelings. Clear
rules can state that the purpose of a domain should be, for example, promote
the "Breton culture" for BZH, or host a website in this language. But I
disagree with charters stating "illegal activities are forbidden, such as
...". Firstly because the laws are different in every countries, and even a
lawyer couldn't write a list of illegal activities that would be applicable
worldwide. Second because this list often contains activities that are
clearly not illegal, such as P2P or porn. Third, because a TLD organization
has never been sued for an illegal website. That would be nonsense. Fourth,
because laws, habits and opinions do change over time. And fifth, because it
is not necessary to tell people that an illegal activity is illegal.
Seriously...
I think OpenNIC has the opportunity to show that TLDs can be managed in a
different, more responsible, and more open way. Don't ruin everything by
saying things such as "we should put more consideration towards whether we
individually would ever use a domain in the new zone, rather than only
considering if we agree with the concept behind the proposal".
Regards,
Psilo.
2011/9/18 Jeff Taylor <shdwdrgn AT sourpuss.net>
> Yes, I have to agree with the principle behind this! Perhaps when we vote
> for new TLDs, we should put more consideration towards whether we
> individually would ever use a domain in the new zone, rather than only
> considering if we agree with the concept behind the proposal. With this in
> mind, the votes would probably show more accurately if there will be any use
> of the TLD beyond what the original owner wants to set up.
>
>
> On 09/17/2011 08:01 PM, Travis McCrea wrote:
>
>> It's like a web forum... if you have TOO MANY different forums and
>> categories then you actually will reduce the activity in general. I
>> would say we try to cut the fat as much as possible and get people using
>> those TLDs and once we have a TLD that really is going to succeed then
>> we will launch that.
>>
>> For my new voting criteria on new TLDs I want the proposer to explain
>> their plan to get 20 websites on their TLD. If they can show a good
>> plan, or show 20 websites that have already said that if there was a
>> certain TLD they would use it... then I will vote in favour of it.
>>
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- Re: [opennic-discuss] Status of the BZH zone, (continued)
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Status of the BZH zone, Amrit Panesar, 09/16/2011
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Status of the BZH zone, Maximi89, 09/17/2011
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Status of the BZH zone, Amrit Panesar, 09/17/2011
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Status of the BZH zone, Jeff Taylor, 09/17/2011
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Status of the BZH zone, Travis McCrea, 09/17/2011
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Status of the BZH zone, ventas, 09/17/2011
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Status of the BZH zone, Jeff Taylor, 09/17/2011
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Status of the BZH zone, Hospedaje Web y Servidores Dedicados, 09/17/2011
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Status of the BZH zone, Travis McCrea, 09/17/2011
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Status of the BZH zone, Jeff Taylor, 09/17/2011
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Status of the BZH zone, Psilo, 09/18/2011
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Status of the BZH zone, Richard Lyons, 09/18/2011
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Status of the BZH zone, Brian Koontz, 09/18/2011
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Status of the BZH zone, Travis McCrea, 09/18/2011
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Status of the BZH zone, Jeff Taylor, 09/19/2011
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Status of the BZH zone, Zach Gibbens, 09/19/2011
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Status of the BZH zone, Travis McCrea, 09/19/2011
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Status of the BZH zone, Jeff Taylor, 09/19/2011
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Status of the BZH zone, mike, 09/19/2011
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Status of the BZH zone, Jeff Taylor, 09/17/2011
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Status of the BZH zone, Amrit Panesar, 09/17/2011
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Status of the BZH zone, Maximi89, 09/17/2011
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Status of the BZH zone, Amrit Panesar, 09/16/2011
- [opennic-discuss] some tlds, ventas, 09/18/2011
- Re: [opennic-discuss] some tlds, Maximi89, 09/19/2011
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