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The opennic policy does not require or mandate free domain registration to be provided by tld operators.

My personal view is that
DNS is not  domain registration and transfer.
The two are simply not equal.

DNS processes run continuously behind the scenes with little if any user contact.
The svc costs relate to system operation and not customer/user interaction.

Domain name registration is a single or on xfer process that occurs from time to time with a higher degree of user contact. The svc costs relate more, much more even, to customer / user interaction. It's unrealistic to expect the anticipated degree of interaction (customer service) to be given for free at this point.
If of course domain name registration and xfer processes are formalized to a point of total user control then I could see the svc being yielded as a free system operation svc like the freedns offering however I would not look to force that on a tld operator. Too much can happen with domain names and if we're honest will invariably incur the need for any some degree of user contact ( customer service).
My view is that the tld operation should be left up to the tld operator. Opennic can distance itself from any issues that might arise between domain registrants and tld operators in it's policies and FAQs.

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Saturday, 03 December 2016, 01:14AM -05:00 from Jonah Aragon <jonaharagon AT gmail.com>:

Hi!

I'm a bit confused, are you in support of allowing domain registration fees?

As far as I am currently aware, domain registrations are supposed to be free according to OpenNIC policies, for both an organizational (supporting the free (libre and gratis) internet) and a common sense (why would people pay for OpenNIC domains if hardly anyone can access them (yet)) viewpoints. 

But.. there is a clause in the policies that states that any policies stated in the charter CAN override OpenNIC policies if the community as a whole agrees, which as I understand it would allow you to charge for domain registrations, even in the way you describe it. So personally I believe what you propose is certainly allowed as long as the rest of the community supports it. I'd personally vote yes on the subject. 

Any other members, if you believe I'm wrong on the above feel free to correct me, but it's my understanding that the ability to override OpenNIC organizational policies is allowed.

Jonah

---as an aside, I've never heard of Liberland before now but it sounds interesting, I wish you the best of luck in your petitions.

On Dec 2, 2016 11:50 PM, "Simon Castano" <discuss AT lists.opennicproject.org> wrote:

Dear all,

I have joined this mailing list not long ago and would like to get some clarifications with regards to registration fee for domain names.

Reading OpenNIC charter, I could not find anything preventing one to charge registration fee for domain names. On the other hand, I feel reluctance for approving domain names that would charge a registration fee.

To me, and to reply to the below, even ICANN domains' are free to use as one do not pay ICANN when resolving google.com - on the other side, running a DNS server or a website is nerver free as one has to host website and DNS servers.
On top of that I think there may be semantic issue with the term "free" in the below; which I'd translate to "libre" meaning it is open to anyone rather than "gratis".

Could you pelase share your opinion on this?


For reference, note that we (Liberland) are planning to run OpenNIC servers to operate ".ll" TLD with a bridge to decentralized DNS and a PKI based on Bitcoin blockchain. We are planning to use our E-Resindency app as an easy entry point to resolve OpenNIC domain.
In the meantime, we are lobying to have LL added to the ISO 3166-1 and obtain ICANN delegation to operate this ccTLD so that .ll wesites can be reached by a broader audience. Note that we would keep on operating OpenNIC servers.
To come back on domain registration fee: we were planning on some sort of auction where domains registration would be free (i.e. gratis) unless interested parties bid domain up.

More details to follow on the above at a later stage.

Thanks

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Simon J. Castaño Segondy
Member of the representation of the Free Republic of Liberland in the Netherlands

On 2016-11-25 15:46, Hunter 9999 wrote:

On our website we say "It’s free to use".
For me that includes the usage as domain registrar.
So we shouldn't charge for domain registrations.
And if I remember right, we have already discussed that on the
mailinglist before, with the result, that we will never charge for
registrations.



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