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[Simon Castano <netherland-office AT liberland.org>]

Hi,

> I'm a bit confused, are you in support of allowing domain registration
> fees?

We are planning to allow free registration unless two or more user show 
interest in the same domain name, in which case it will be assign to the 
highest bid.


> As far as I am currently aware, domain registrations are supposed to
> be free according to OpenNIC policies, for both an organizational
> (supporting the free (libre and gratis) internet) and a common sense
> (why would people pay for OpenNIC domains if hardly anyone can access
> them (yet)) viewpoints.

We do not expect price to soar indeed and most domains will most likely 
end-up being free


Thanks,


---
Simon

On 2016-12-03 07:14, Jonah Aragon wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I'm a bit confused, are you in support of allowing domain registration
> fees?
>
> As far as I am currently aware, domain registrations are supposed to
> be free according to OpenNIC policies, for both an organizational
> (supporting the free (libre and gratis) internet) and a common sense
> (why would people pay for OpenNIC domains if hardly anyone can access
> them (yet)) viewpoints.
>
> But.. there is a clause in the policies that states that any policies
> stated in the charter CAN override OpenNIC policies if the community
> as a whole agrees, which as I understand it would allow you to charge
> for domain registrations, even in the way you describe it. So
> personally I believe what you propose is certainly allowed as long as
> the rest of the community supports it. I'd personally vote yes on the
> subject.
>
> Any other members, if you believe I'm wrong on the above feel free to
> correct me, but it's my understanding that the ability to override
> OpenNIC organizational policies is allowed.
>
> Jonah
>
> ---as an aside, I've never heard of Liberland before now but it sounds
> interesting, I wish you the best of luck in your petitions.
>
> On Dec 2, 2016 11:50 PM, "Simon Castano"
> <discuss AT lists.opennicproject.org> wrote:
>
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I have joined this mailing list not long ago and would like to get
> > some clarifications with regards to registration fee for domain
> > names.
> >
> > Reading OpenNIC charter, I could not find anything preventing one to
> > charge registration fee for domain names. On the other hand, I feel
> > reluctance for approving domain names that would charge a
> > registration fee.
> >
> > To me, and to reply to the below, even ICANN domains' are free to
> > use as one do not pay ICANN when resolving google.com [1] - on the
> > other side, running a DNS server or a website is nerver free as one
> > has to host website and DNS servers.
> > On top of that I think there may be semantic issue with the term
> > "free" in the below; which I'd translate to "libre" meaning it is
> > open to anyone rather than "gratis".
> >
> > Could you pelase share your opinion on this?
> >
> > For reference, note that we (Liberland) are planning to run OpenNIC
> > servers to operate ".ll" TLD with a bridge to decentralized DNS and
> > a PKI based on Bitcoin blockchain. We are planning to use our
> > E-Resindency app as an easy entry point to resolve OpenNIC domain.
> > In the meantime, we are lobying to have LL added to the ISO 3166-1
> > and obtain ICANN delegation to operate this ccTLD so that .ll
> > wesites can be reached by a broader audience. Note that we would
> > keep on operating OpenNIC servers.
> > To come back on domain registration fee: we were planning on some
> > sort of auction where domains registration would be free (i.e.
> > gratis) unless interested parties bid domain up.
> >
> > More details to follow on the above at a later stage.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > ---
> > Simon J. Castaño Segondy
> > Member of the representation of the Free Republic of Liberland in
> > the Netherlands
> >
> > On 2016-11-25 15:46, Hunter 9999 wrote:
> >
> > > On our website we say "It’s free to use".
> > > For me that includes the usage as domain registrar.
> > > So we shouldn't charge for domain registrations.
> > > And if I remember right, we have already discussed that on the
> > > mailinglist before, with the result, that we will never charge for
> > > registrations.
> > >
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