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  • From: "Daniel Quintiliani" <danq AT runbox.com>
  • To: "discuss" <discuss AT lists.opennicproject.org>
  • Subject: Re: [opennic-discuss] VOTE: Amendments to .o Charter and Operational Policies
  • Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2017 17:40:21 -0500 (EST)

I vote No to the .o amendments, since OpenNIC runs on majority vote, no
OpenNIC TLD should be subject to "veto" by anyone, especially when it isn't
OpenNIC. Additionally the maintainer of .o has given no examples of
"instability" would cause such a "veto" and by whom or what process the
"veto" would occur. Again, I vote No to the proposed amendments to the .o TLD.

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-Dan Q

On Sun, 05 Feb 2017 16:28:13 +0000 (GMT), David Vargas-Alvarez
<davidvargas1 AT mac.com> wrote:

> I see no problems with the interpretation: Here is the copy and paste from
> the document.
>   My vote is:  No TO  amendments. OpenNic always been a  real democratic
> FRONT AND status for DNS. Not like ICANN.
>
>
>
> OpenNIC (Open Network Information Center) is a user-owned and
> user-controlled community service offering a democratic, non-national
> alternative to traditional top-level domain (TLD) registries. Users of
> OpenNIC DNS servers, in addition to resolving host names in the legacy
> US-controlled DNS (administered by ICANN), can also resolve host names in
> OpenNIC operated namespaces as well as in namespaces with which we have
> peering agreements. OpenNIC accepts for membership anyone who can use a
> computer and who chooses to use the services offered by OpenNIC.
>
> On Feb 05, 2017, at 08:31 AM, Jonah Aragon <jonaharagon AT gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> At the beginning of the .o charter it clearly states: "“Members” in this
> charter refers to owners of .o domains and not OpenNIC members unless
> otherwise noted."
>
>
> I'm not sure how that could be misconstrued.
>
>
> Jonah
>
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 6:15 PM mk <mk AT mkwia.com> wrote:
>
>
> That's not correct. As per the OpenNIC charter "changes to peering
> arrangements,
> introduction of new TLDs, and **policy/charter amendments** will be
> presented
> for discussion, then voted upon by the appropriate membership category."
>
> There are 3 membership categories:
> - general member
> - administrator
> - maintainer
>
> "A general member is anyone who uses the services offered by OpenNIC." This
> means
> holders of *any* domain name, and even users that only use the DNS servers,
> and
> have no OpenNIC domains. ALL members can vote on ANY TLD; not only persons
> that hold a, in this instance, .o domain.
>
> OpenNIC charter: http://wiki.opennicproject.org/OpenNICCharter
>
>
>
>
> On 04/02/2017 18:04, Jonah Aragon wrote:
>
> Re Amendment 2: I apologize for the misprint on the charter regarding
> domain pricing, it seems I pasted in an earlier revision of the charter
> that included that wording. The official charter does indeed state domains
> will remain free in perpetuity, and we had no intention of raising prices
> ever.  I will update the website soon with the correct wording. This
> amendment isn't necessary.
>
>
> Re Amendment 1: The terminology "members" in the situation you've posed
> refers to domain holders (i.e. persons who hold an .o domain), not the
> OpenNIC community. We require the ability to veto such votes so as not to
> create instability. On the page you referenced
> (http://wiki.opennicproject.org/RegisteringATLD) this is stated quite
> clearly: "All OpenNIC TLDs must be governed democratically, with **each
> domain registrant receiving a single vote**. A vote of the "membership" of
> a TLD is always binding. Therefore, an OpenNIC TLD does not belong to any
> one person or group, but rather to the community of its users." Clearly it
> in no way refers to OpenNIC decisions as a whole.
>
>
> The OpenNIC community at large has voted in favor of my charter
> overwhelmingly, after making some changes when it was originally up for
> discussion. I believe it's well written and requires no changes: I vote NO
> on all aforementioned proposals.
>
>
> Additionally, all policies are de facto valid under current OpenNIC
> policies, as the OpenNIC community voted in favor of the charter,
> effectively making it an official policy in the community. 
>
>
> Hopefully this clears things up for everybody,
>
>
> Jonah
> ModernTLD Administrator
> https://www.moderntld.com/ 
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 11:43 AM <mk AT mkwia.com> wrote:
>
> Hello friends,
> I has come to my attention that some elements of the .o charter is not
> inline
> with the OpenNIC charter. I think this would be best resolved by voting
> through
> some amendments that solve my concerns.
>
>
> --Amendment 1--
> To remove the clause "The mTLD administration holds the right to veto any
> member
> votes, in order to retain control of .o operation." from the .o
> Organizational Policies document.
>
> Explanation: This clause is in direct violation of the "Registering a new
> TLD"
> policy, where it is stated that you can only manage a TLD "if you are
> willing
> to
> manage a TLD which will always be subject to any **binding** vote of the
> entire
> OpenNIC membership."
>
> References:
> https://www.moderntld.com/about/policies/
> http://wiki.opennicproject.org/RegisteringATLD
>
>
> --Amendment 2--
> To remove the clause "All registrations will be available for free after
> approval, however, the modernTLD administration holds the right to raise
> prices
> as needed to cover operating costs" from the .o charter, and replace it with
> the
> clause "All registrations are and will remain available for free"
>
> Explanation: As per the OpenNIC charter, its mission is "to offer **free**/
> open
> access to DNS services to everyone by establishing new domain hierarchies."
> It also "encourages the establishment of non-revenue-generating domain
> hierarchies."
>
> References:
> https://www.moderntld.com/about/charter/
> http://wiki.opennicproject.org/OpenNICCharter
>
>
> With this the discussion period of 7 days begins.
>
> Voting shall begin at 18:00 UTC Saturday 11th February 2017.
> Voting shall end at 18:00 UTC Saturday 18th February 2017.
>
> Please vote YES/NO during this period for each of the amendments.
>
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