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- From: Jonah Aragon <jonah AT triplebit.net>
- To: discuss AT lists.opennicproject.org
- Subject: Re: [opennic-discuss] [RESULTS] Allow libre material on/libre use of .libre
- Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2017 14:29:53 -0500
You’re confusing can’t and won’t. We can enforce any policies we choose,
we’re an independent organization and we’re fully capable of enforcing our
bylaws. Whether we would or not is a different matter.
I think I’d side more towards Jeff on this topic however. Our members should
have an expectation of safety on the network. Content blocking is one thing,
but preventing malware and actual entities that are making malicious efforts
to harm people’s computers is different. The right to free speech can only go
so far, we aren’t being forced to enable C&C centers or other nefarious
domains.
Jonah
> On Nov 3, 2017, at 14:20, Daniel Quintiliani <danq AT runbox.com> wrote:
>
> +1. What's next, mandatory logging of all servers for the NSA?
>
> Also, I will repeat my last message:
>
> We can't force domains we peer with internationally to not host malware or
> comply with our definition of "legal" - this is the hosting provider's job.
>
> --
>
> -Dan Q
>
>
>> On Fri, 3 Nov 2017 01:24:25 +0100, Amunak <amunak AT amunak.net> wrote:
>>
>> I don't think we should make too many limiting rules. For one, if (when)
>> OpenNIC grows it'll be impossible to realistically check domains for
>> legality or even malware and such. And when we do it only when requested
>> to take down the content, is it really fair? And who gets to decide if
>> the rules are truly broken? I don't think T2 (or even T1) server owners
>> should be pressured to do any blocking. If they want to do so, and
>> disclose it then sure. Especially if it's to follow the laws of their
>> respective countries or to protect OpenNIC infrastructure. But force
>> them to do so? Not really. (Just a sidenote: I thought one goals of
>> OpenNIC was openness, privacy and no censorship - if we don't uphold
>> these values are we better than ICANN and why do we really exist?)
>
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- Re: [opennic-discuss] [RESULTS] Allow libre material on/libre use of .libre, (continued)
- Re: [opennic-discuss] [RESULTS] Allow libre material on/libre use of .libre, vv, 11/01/2017
- Re: [opennic-discuss] [RESULTS] Allow libre material on/libre use of .libre, Jeff Taylor, 11/02/2017
- Re: [opennic-discuss] [RESULTS] Allow libre material on/libre use of .libre, Jonah Aragon, 11/02/2017
- Re: [opennic-discuss] [RESULTS] Allow libre material on/libre use of .libre, Amunak, 11/03/2017
- Re: [opennic-discuss] [RESULTS] Allow libre material on/libre use of .libre, Jonah Aragon, 11/03/2017
- Re: [opennic-discuss] [RESULTS] Allow libre material on/libre use of .libre, Jeff Taylor, 11/03/2017
- Re: [opennic-discuss] [RESULTS] Allow libre material on/libre use of .libre, Daniel Quintiliani, 11/03/2017
- Re: [opennic-discuss] [RESULTS] Allow libre material on/libre use of .libre, Jeff Taylor, 11/04/2017
- Re: [opennic-discuss] [RESULTS] Allow libre material on/libre use of .libre, Daniel Quintiliani, 11/03/2017
- Re: [opennic-discuss] [RESULTS] Allow libre material on/libre use of .libre, Jeff Taylor, 11/03/2017
- Re: [opennic-discuss] [RESULTS] Allow libre material on/libre use of .libre, Daniel Quintiliani, 11/03/2017
- Re: [opennic-discuss] [RESULTS] Allow libre material on/libre use of .libre, Jonah Aragon, 11/03/2017
- Re: [opennic-discuss] [RESULTS] Allow libre material on/libre use of .libre, Jack Ternan, 11/03/2017
- Re: [opennic-discuss] [RESULTS] Allow libre material on/libre use of .libre, Jonah Aragon, 11/03/2017
- Re: [opennic-discuss] [RESULTS] Allow libre material on/libre use of .libre, Jack Ternan, 11/05/2017
- Re: [opennic-discuss] [RESULTS] Allow libre material on/libre use of .libre, Amunak, 11/06/2017
- Re: [opennic-discuss] [RESULTS] Allow libre material on/libre use of .libre, vv, 11/06/2017
- Re: [opennic-discuss] [RESULTS] Allow libre material on/libre use of .libre, Jack Ternan, 11/07/2017
- Re: [opennic-discuss] [RESULTS] Allow libre material on/libre use of .libre, vv, 11/07/2017
- Re: [opennic-discuss] [RESULTS] Allow libre material on/libre use of .libre, Amunak, 11/07/2017
- Re: [opennic-discuss] [RESULTS] Allow libre material on/libre use of .libre, vv, 11/07/2017
- Re: [opennic-discuss] [RESULTS] Allow libre material on/libre use of .libre, Jack Ternan, 11/03/2017
- Re: [opennic-discuss] [RESULTS] Allow libre material on/libre use of .libre, Jonah Aragon, 11/03/2017
- Re: [opennic-discuss] [RESULTS] Allow libre material on/libre use of .libre, Jonah Aragon, 11/03/2017
- Re: [opennic-discuss] [RESULTS] Allow libre material on/libre use of .libre, Jeff Taylor, 11/02/2017
- Re: [opennic-discuss] [RESULTS] Allow libre material on/libre use of .libre, vv, 11/01/2017
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