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  • From: kevin <krattai AT gmail.com>
  • To: discuss AT lists.opennicproject.org
  • Subject: Re: [opennic-discuss] DNSCrypt.org is offline
  • Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2018 11:15:17 -0600

nvm reaching out to Frank.  I've gone back through the reddit thread
and he's just abandoned it and is using a VPN.  If it's any other
reason than he probably doesn't want people bothering about it any
more, he's being otherwise tight lipped.

There is an up to date also at:
https://github.com/dyne/dnscrypt-proxy

Kevin

On Mon, 2018-01-08 at 11:06 -0600, kevin wrote:
> Who updated the DNSCrypt wikipedia?  It's already pointing to FUSL's
> fork:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNSCrypt
>
> Google appears to be suggesting that Frank was the prior maintainer
> of
> what we were using.  Has anyone been in contact with him?  It's he
> that
> has removed the repository so he'd be the one to ask why it's gone
> and
> if we could get the post up to date code.
>
> https://github.com/jedisct1/
>
> He seems to be still quite active on other projects, so it's not like
> he dropped off the face of the earth with updates to repositories
> still
> ongoing as of today.  Yecheng is still active as well.
>
> https://github.com/cofyc
>
> RFC is quite a process and it's hard to imagine that it will be
> adopted, but I suppose it's worth a try.  But, it certainly doesn't
> have to be officially part of protocol.  That would not help any on
> the
> implementation, it would just make it a standard that still requires
> someone to code an interpretation of use.
>
> Kevin
>
> On Mon, 2018-01-08 at 15:15 +0000, Rouben wrote:
> >
> > I doubt we’ll see any kind of stability from this unless:
> > a) we roll our own fork and assume maintenance over this project as
> > an
> > OpenNIC community project; the biggest issue here is to find people
> > skilled
> > enough to keep this project alive, even on life support (implement
> > security
> > patches for holes discovered and disclosed to us)
> > b) we somehow lobby to make this part of the DNS protocol itself
> > (part of
> > the RFC) and therefore see these implemented as part of stock DNS
> > server
> > implementations (bind, powerdns, etc)
> >
> > Rouben
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 08:04 Famicoman <famicoman AT gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > It looks like the new site was an exiting dns-over-tls product,
> > > that has
> > > now acquired the dnscrypt.org domain. Sort of like if Pepsi went
> > > out of
> > > business so Coca Cola bought pepsi.com.
> > >
> > > It's definitely something to keep an eye on, but I find their own
> > > comparison article of dns-over-tls to dnscrypt quite vapid. There
> > > is little
> > > documentation on setup from a server perspective and things that
> > > they
> > > criticise dnscrypt for (a client app on the server machine and
> > > companion
> > > software on the server) are what they recommend for dns-over-tls
> > > via the
> > > "Stubby" resolver and nginx reverse proxies.
> > >
> > > On Jan 6, 2018 6:35 PM, "Rouben" <rouben AT rouben.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > https://github.com/xuanhan863/dnscrypt-proxy
> > > > Looks like an old fork.
> > > >
> > > > It’s hard to believe there were no other forks of this repo on
> > > > github.
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 18:02 kevin <krattai AT gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Probably grab the zips and see if there is an open
> > > > > license.  If
> > > > > so,
> > > > > then would likely be a good idea to put it back up to github
> > > > > as
> > > > > an open
> > > > > mirror.  If there isn't indication that the original project
> > > > > doesn't
> > > > > resurface again, then hopefully someone can pick it up for
> > > > > further
> > > > > development.
> > > > >
> > > > > Kevin
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, 2018-01-06 at 20:35 +0000, Matthias Merkel wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The source code and binaries I mean
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sat, Jan 6, 2018, 9:34 PM Matthias Merkel <matthias@bolt
> > > > > > n-
> > > > > > hosting.
> > > > > > com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Do you think we should put up a download mirror site with
> > > > > > > all the
> > > > > > > stuff we
> > > > > > > can find?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Sat, Jan 6, 2018, 9:28 PM Famicoman <famicoman AT gmail.c
> > > > > > > om
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Internet archived captured *some* of the files from
> > > > > > > > their
> > > > > > > > download
> > > > > > > > directory:
> > > > > > > > https://web.archive.org/web/20170602214244/https://down
> > > > > > > > lo
> > > > > > > > ad.dnscr
> > > > > > > > ypt.org/
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Fossies has a mirror of the latest linux source, but I
> > > > > > > > can't find
> > > > > > > > any
> > > > > > > > verification/signature files to go with it,
> > > > > > > > https://fossies.org/linux/misc/dns/dnscrypt-proxy-1.9.5
> > > > > > > > .t
> > > > > > > > ar.gz/
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 3:23 PM, kevin <krattai AT gmail.co
> > > > > > > > m>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I've seen this happen when someone sells intellectual
> > > > > > > > > property.  The
> > > > > > > > > source is taken down by the original project owner.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > You might want to check github to see if anyone had
> > > > > > > > > cloned the
> > > > > > > > > project.
> > > > > > > > >  It might eventually be further developed as a fork,
> > > > > > > > > depending
> > > > > > > > > on what
> > > > > > > > > the license was.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Kevin
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Sat, 2018-01-06 at 15:04 -0500, Famicoman wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > It looks like the DNSCrypt site and github project
> > > > > > > > > > are gone
> > > > > > > > > > as of
> > > > > > > > > > today.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > There is a reddit thread speculating that jedisct1
> > > > > > > > > > has given
> > > > > > > > > > up the
> > > > > > > > > > project. Sort of strange to take it off of github
> > > > > > > > > > though,
> > > > > > > > > > https://www.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/7oiu9f/wh
> > > > > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > > _happene
> > > > > > > > > > d_to_dns
> > > > > > > > > > crypt/
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Anyone have any more information? dnscrypt-wrapper
> > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > still
> > > > > > > > > > on github
> > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > working, and for the time being, dnscrypt-proxy is
> > > > > > > > > > still
> > > > > > > > > > available
> > > > > > > > > > through
> > > > > > > > > > apt under debian.
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