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- From: Wil <wil AT lesspheres.fr>
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- Subject: Re: [opennic-discuss] Adblocking Tier 2 at 167.99.153.82
- Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 09:15:14 +0200
I noticed the ads lists include conhive.com.
Don’t want to enter in a long argue/discussion here, but I think it’s too bad…
Wil.
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Le 16 avr. 2018 à 04:34, Jacob Bachmeyer <jcb62281 AT gmail.com> a écrit :
Jonah Aragon wrote:
They all ultimately rely on _javascript_. Block _javascript_ with NoScript or similar and not only are you protected from most (all?) browser exploits, but most ads also disappear.
Server-side anti-ad-block *might* be possible, but browser extensions can defeat it easily by requesting the ad resource and simply not displaying the ad.
Browser extensions, assuming they implement full blocking, prevent even a DNS query. DNS blocking only prevents the connection to the ad server.
I entirely agree with this. Also, the problem with letting "a little bit of censorship for a worthy cause" is policing the censors to guard against scope creep and lazy filter list maintenance. I remember back in school where the site that distributed the Windows port of cdrtools was blocked under the category "Illegal Drugs". There was nothing of the sort on that site anywhere.
-- Jacob
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This is a good point, and I was thinking about this myself. I’m not actually sure how those anti-adblocking sites detect adblocking in the first place. I haven’t run into this issue yet, but if anybody does feel free to send me an email with a link and I’ll see if there’s anything I can do about it.
They all ultimately rely on _javascript_. Block _javascript_ with NoScript or similar and not only are you protected from most (all?) browser exploits, but most ads also disappear.
Server-side anti-ad-block *might* be possible, but browser extensions can defeat it easily by requesting the ad resource and simply not displaying the ad.
Other than that I don’t think there’s any disadvantages, and it’s probably better than browser extensions from a privacy perspective since nothing gets resolved or downloaded in the first place.
Browser extensions, assuming they implement full blocking, prevent even a DNS query. DNS blocking only prevents the connection to the ad server.
This is incredibly easy to implement. I doubt we’ll block them by default at the Tier 1 level because it goes against some of our core values of anti-censorship in a way, but it’d be easy for others to setup Tier 2s in a similar manner.
I entirely agree with this. Also, the problem with letting "a little bit of censorship for a worthy cause" is policing the censors to guard against scope creep and lazy filter list maintenance. I remember back in school where the site that distributed the Windows port of cdrtools was blocked under the category "Illegal Drugs". There was nothing of the sort on that site anywhere.
-- Jacob
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- Re: [opennic-discuss] Adblocking Tier 2 at 167.99.153.82, (continued)
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Adblocking Tier 2 at 167.99.153.82, Jonah Aragon, 04/15/2018
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Adblocking Tier 2 at 167.99.153.82, Matthias Merkel, 04/15/2018
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Adblocking Tier 2 at 167.99.153.82, Al Beano, 04/15/2018
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Adblocking Tier 2 at 167.99.153.82, Jonah Aragon, 04/15/2018
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Adblocking Tier 2 at 167.99.153.82, Al Beano, 04/15/2018
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Adblocking Tier 2 at 167.99.153.82, Wil, 04/15/2018
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Adblocking Tier 2 at 167.99.153.82, Jonah Aragon, 04/15/2018
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Adblocking Tier 2 at 167.99.153.82, Wil, 04/15/2018
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Adblocking Tier 2 at 167.99.153.82, Jonah Aragon, 04/15/2018
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Adblocking Tier 2 at 167.99.153.82, Al Beano, 04/15/2018
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Adblocking Tier 2 at 167.99.153.82, Jonah Aragon, 04/15/2018
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Adblocking Tier 2 at 167.99.153.82, Jonah Aragon, 04/15/2018
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Adblocking Tier 2 at 167.99.153.82, Wil, 04/16/2018
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Adblocking Tier 2 at 167.99.153.82, Jonah Aragon, 04/16/2018
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Adblocking Tier 2 at 167.99.153.82, Wil, 04/16/2018
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Adblocking Tier 2 at 167.99.153.82, vv, 04/16/2018
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Adblocking Tier 2 at 167.99.153.82, Wil, 04/17/2018
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Adblocking Tier 2 at 167.99.153.82, vv, 04/17/2018
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Adblocking Tier 2 at 167.99.153.82, Wil, 04/17/2018
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Adblocking Tier 2 at 167.99.153.82, Jonah Aragon, 04/16/2018
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