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["Daniel Quintiliani" <danq AT runbox.com>]

I have no objection to cancelling the other vote, in fact I even want it at 
this point. What I am objecting to is the fact that the new proposal of Jonah 
contains a paragraph which intends to be a mass condemnation and personal 
attack, along with slanderous allegations of potentially illegal behavior.

"...Daniel Q....sane...should be considered misleading"

This language is trolling, personal attacks, and slanderous accusations of 
potentially illegal behavior under the guise of a "proposal". Each vote is an 
act of putting me on a stool and having each member make slanderous 
accusations and attack me. I don't care about invalidating the ongoing 
proposal, or repealing it when the last round ends. I care about "proposals" 
design to personally attack people.

--

-Dan Q


On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 18:17:19 +0000, Philipp Schafft <lion AT lion.leolix.org> 
wrote:

> Good evening,
> 
> On Tue, 2018-07-31 at 12:09 -0400, Daniel Quintiliani wrote:
> > OpenNIC proposals should not be used to target specific members and
> > give opinions about their character or actions. Jonah's upcoming
> > proposal to invalidate the ongoing vote (which I have no control over,
> > and would stop if I could) makes references to "Daniel Q." along with
> > the phrase "sane recount" and accusations of myself engaging in
> > "misleading" behavior.
> > 
> > These defamatory "troll votes" have no place in OpenNIC and if that
> > first paragraph is included as is, the whole purpose of the vote
> > becomes a personal attack on me and accusation of me engaging in
> > fraudulent, potentially illegal activity.
> 
> So you decided to do exactly what he did as counter attack?
> Writing a "PROPOSAL" that is a direct reaction to his "PROPOSAL"
> attacking him, trying to render his "PROPOSAL" invalid and/or void?
> 
> Good job.
> 
> > This is my proposal, yea/nay, which will be put up to vote on
> > 8/7/2018:
> > 
> > OpenNIC proposals shall not contain, in full or in part, language
> > which:
> > 
> > * Praises an OpenNIC member on basis of their character or actions,
> > * Condemns an OpenNIC member on basis of their character or actions,
> > * Makes allegations of unethical or illegal activity by an OpenNIC
> > member, unless confirmed by a court of law, and/or
> 
> Ah, there is the "unethical" and "illegal" again I have talked about so
> many times.... Why do people still love them so much?
> 
> 
> > * Criticizes or comments on a proposal or vote, past or present, valid
> > or invalid, in which an OpenNIC member is criticized on basis of their
> > character or actions.
> > 
> > The proposal shall take effect immediately after passing.
> 
> "or actions". So, for example if someone writes an "PROPOSAL" for a new
> TLD it may no longer be considered if that person can actually run the
> TLD (ref: the working registration system requirement that was discussed
> very lengthy).
> 
> 
> With best regards,
> 
> -- 
> Philipp.
>  (Rah of PH2)
>