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[Rouben <rouben AT rouben.net>]

I’d have to agree with Amunak, especially this part:

“There is nothing wrong about having a set of rules or recommendations [I would say “guidelines”] on how to write to the mailing list, how to behave and how to be nice to others, even if it's not actually really enforced. It still helps give some moral code that should be common to all members.”

And if some people are worried about bureaucratic fluff, check out Gentoo’s or Arch’s codes of conduct. Polar opposite to Ubuntu’s version 2.0 code of conduct, which is very “fluffy”. Gentoo and Arch keep it down to earth and practical.

While I appreciate the “wild west/IRC” approach to things, I also remember how having to GPG sign Ubuntu’s code of conduct on Launchpad a number of years back made quite the impression on me, and on a number of occasions made me reflect on what I was about to do or post.

On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 14:32 Amunak <amunak AT amunak.net> wrote:

I would like to point out the irony in your statement when you say this:

On 2018-08-09 08:47, Verax wrote:

I agree with this sentiment.  Codes of conduct have a deservedly bad reputation as bureaucratic fluff that caters to people who make a hobby of warping those things to suit their aims.  We do not need one.

...while we currently have an ongoing vote to implement what is, essentially, a code of conduct for proposals, at least as far as criticizing OpenNIC members in proposal goes.

There is nothing wrong about having a set of rules or recommendations on how to write to the mailing list, how to behave and how to be nice to others, even if it's not actually really enforced. It still helps give some moral code that should be common to all members.

What I don't like when is when it becomes official rules that have to be followed to the letter and when it makes some people police others (which is what the current vote is, IMO, doing).

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Rouben