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I suspect that Gentoo and Arch also have more
than eleven people involved.

Sure, their guidelines may be well written and
even suitable here, but the fact remains that
we're just a small handful of people. If we
can't  communicate in a workable manner, then
there is something else wrong that no amount of
rules will ever fix.

~ Ole


On Thu, 9 Aug 2018 15:25:54 -0400
Rouben <rouben AT rouben.net> wrote:

> I’d have to agree with Amunak, especially this part:
> “There is nothing wrong about having a set of rules or
> recommendations [I would say “guidelines”] on how to
> write to the mailing list, how to behave and how to be
> nice to others, even if it's not actually really
> enforced. It still helps give some moral code that should
> be common to all members.”
> 
> And if some people are worried about bureaucratic fluff,
> check out Gentoo’s or Arch’s codes of conduct. Polar
> opposite to Ubuntu’s version 2.0 code of conduct, which
> is very “fluffy”. Gentoo and Arch keep it down to earth
> and practical.
> 
> While I appreciate the “wild west/IRC” approach to
> things, I also remember how having to GPG sign Ubuntu’s
> code of conduct on Launchpad a number of years back made
> quite the impression on me, and on a number of occasions
> made me reflect on what I was about to do or post.
> 
> On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 14:32 Amunak <amunak AT amunak.net>
> wrote:
> 
> > I would like to point out the irony in your statement
> > when you say this:
> >
> > On 2018-08-09 08:47, Verax wrote:
> >
> > I agree with this sentiment.  Codes of conduct have a
> > deservedly bad reputation as bureaucratic fluff that
> > caters to people who make a hobby of warping those
> > things to suit their aims.  We do not need one.
> >
> >
> > ...while we currently have an ongoing *vote* to
> > implement what is, essentially, a code of conduct for
> > proposals, at least as far as criticizing OpenNIC
> > members in proposal goes.
> >
> > There is nothing wrong about having a set of rules or
> > recommendations on how to write to the mailing list,
> > how to behave and how to be nice to others, even if
> > it's not actually really enforced. It still helps give
> > some moral code that should be common to all members.
> >
> > What I don't like when is when it becomes official
> > rules that have to be followed to the letter and when
> > it makes some people police others (which is what the
> > current vote is, IMO, doing).
> >
> >
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