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I agree.  You can't regulate people's attitudes and behaviour. 
Additionally, even those codes of conduct have an unnecessary amount of 
fluff.  I can write a better one.

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That should cover pretty much all bases.  I'm not saying this is the way 
forward, just that there are better options if we do want to go this route.

--Verax
        

vv AT cgs.pw wrote:
> I suspect that Gentoo and Arch also have more
> than eleven people involved.
>
> Sure, their guidelines may be well written and
> even suitable here, but the fact remains that
> we're just a small handful of people. If we
> can't  communicate in a workable manner, then
> there is something else wrong that no amount of
> rules will ever fix.
>
> ~ Ole
>
>
> On Thu, 9 Aug 2018 15:25:54 -0400
> Rouben <rouben AT rouben.net> wrote:
>
> > I’d have to agree with Amunak, especially this part:
> > “There is nothing wrong about having a set of rules or
> > recommendations [I would say “guidelines”] on how to
> > write to the mailing list, how to behave and how to be
> > nice to others, even if it's not actually really
> > enforced. It still helps give some moral code that should
> > be common to all members.”
> >
> > And if some people are worried about bureaucratic fluff,
> > check out Gentoo’s or Arch’s codes of conduct. Polar
> > opposite to Ubuntu’s version 2.0 code of conduct, which
> > is very “fluffy”. Gentoo and Arch keep it down to earth
> > and practical.
> >
> > While I appreciate the “wild west/IRC” approach to
> > things, I also remember how having to GPG sign Ubuntu’s
> > code of conduct on Launchpad a number of years back made
> > quite the impression on me, and on a number of occasions
> > made me reflect on what I was about to do or post.
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 14:32 Amunak <amunak AT amunak.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I would like to point out the irony in your statement
> > > when you say this:
> > >
> > > On 2018-08-09 08:47, Verax wrote:
> > >
> > > I agree with this sentiment.  Codes of conduct have a
> > > deservedly bad reputation as bureaucratic fluff that
> > > caters to people who make a hobby of warping those
> > > things to suit their aims.  We do not need one.
> > >
> > >
> > > ...while we currently have an ongoing *vote* to
> > > implement what is, essentially, a code of conduct for
> > > proposals, at least as far as criticizing OpenNIC
> > > members in proposal goes.
> > >
> > > There is nothing wrong about having a set of rules or
> > > recommendations on how to write to the mailing list,
> > > how to behave and how to be nice to others, even if
> > > it's not actually really enforced. It still helps give
> > > some moral code that should be common to all members.
> > >
> > > What I don't like when is when it becomes official
> > > rules that have to be followed to the letter and when
> > > it makes some people police others (which is what the
> > > current vote is, IMO, doing).
> > >
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