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[Megan Parat <megan.parat AT yahoo.com>]

I recounted the votes using the mailing list's web interface:

Yes:

Daniel Quintiliani
Jonah Aragon
Allen Schultz
Dennis Emory Hannon
Vladimir F.
Jacob Bachmeyer

No:

Amunak
Megan Parat
Jack Ternan
Sebastian Makowiecki [1]
Ole Juul
kevin
Al Beano [2]

Invalid:

Philipp Schafft

Notes:
[1] Amended vote. They specified that they wanted their vote to matter:
>[...] as long as invalid votes are being accounted for and have a meaning (as in potential effect [...])
And subsequently voted "no". In any case, they seem to be against the proposal as evidenced by their first vote of "Issues".

[2] Amended vote

Totals:
6 Yes, 7 No, 1 Invalid
The proposal doesn't pass.

On a side note,

>Relative counts:
>Yes: 6/14 = ~42.86%; No: 5/14 = ~35.71%; Spoilt: 3/14 = ~21.43%
>
>Therefore:
>Yes wins with highest number of votes.

What's the point of calculating the *percentage* of spoilt votes if we're not using absolute majority ? The number of spoilt votes is fine for having a general idea of the legitimacy of the vote, especially when there's only a handful of voters. Megan.

On 8/22/18 3:11 PM, Philipp Schafft wrote:

Good afternoon,

On Tue, 2018-08-21 at 20:53 -0400, Daniel Quintiliani wrote:

Yes (6):

Daniel Quintiliani
Jonah Aragon
Allen Schultz
Dennis Emory Hannon
Jacob Bachmeyer
Vladimir F.

No (7):

Amunak
Megan Parat
Jack Ternan
Sebastian Makowiecki*
vv
kevin
Al Beano*

Invalid votes:

Philipp Schafft ("democracy")

* changed from invalid vote

Proposal failed to pass, 6-7

I can not second this counting as I come to a different counting.

I count as following:

Yes:
      * Vladimir F. <geek AT nabitw.xyz> in
        15a5a48a-086b-bef3-8d90-06c01db6fe29 AT nabitw.xyz"><15a5a48a-086b-bef3-8d90-06c01db6fe29 AT nabitw.xyz>
      * Allen Schultz <allen.schultz AT gmail.com> in <CAP+RUJfu
        +eFMWuwE7oKE-24SC9BQzyZS6gddqD2x_VZbOC53sQ AT mail.gmail.com>
      * Dennis Emory Hannon <info AT backplanedns.org> in
        c30d9b4e-4126-2846-b2c0-b8aaaaeb9049 AT backplanedns.org"><c30d9b4e-4126-2846-b2c0-b8aaaaeb9049 AT backplanedns.org>
      * Jacob Bachmeyer <jcb62281 AT gmail.com> in
        5B78A264.2030600 AT gmail.com"><5B78A264.2030600 AT gmail.com>
      * Jonah Aragon <jonah AT opennic.org> in
        D48868E0-C33D-4EC4-B1D8-6C2FD79D69D8 AT opennic.org"><D48868E0-C33D-4EC4-B1D8-6C2FD79D69D8 AT opennic.org>
      * Daniel Quintiliani <danq AT runbox.com> in
        <E1fpjuH-0005gz-ER AT rmmprod07.runbox>

No:
      * Amunak <amunak AT amunak.net> in
        97fc7d61-b0b6-4e0e-ce8f-4fb7e0b92e60 AT amunak.net"><97fc7d61-b0b6-4e0e-ce8f-4fb7e0b92e60 AT amunak.net>
      * Megan Parat <megan.parat AT yahoo.com> in
        b47fcfe7-fc59-4340-3eab-dfbb4a0417b4 AT yahoo.com"><b47fcfe7-fc59-4340-3eab-dfbb4a0417b4 AT yahoo.com>
      * Jack Ternan <jackist AT email.com> in
        <trinity-42ea374d-b4f4-49c3-b0ee-10010f652460-1534647456998@3c-app-mailcom-lxa13>
      * vv AT cgs.pw in <20180819005723.09dd06b1@SCO>
      * kevin <krattai AT gmail.com> in
        1534680795.30790.0.camel AT gmail.com"><1534680795.30790.0.camel AT gmail.com>

Spoilt:
      * Philipp Schafft <lion AT lion.leolix.org> in
        1534336345.5822.21.camel AT lion.leolix.org"><1534336345.5822.21.camel AT lion.leolix.org>
      * Al Beano <albino AT autistici.org> in
        fe497fa4-8e95-4e5b-930d-87eaea53168a AT autistici.org"><fe497fa4-8e95-4e5b-930d-87eaea53168a AT autistici.org>
      * Al Beano <albino AT autistici.org> in
        c1f25b84-2c8e-57ee-0b53-eb1928ebc5ed AT autistici.org"><c1f25b84-2c8e-57ee-0b53-eb1928ebc5ed AT autistici.org> (invalid as
        double voted)
      * Sebastian Makowiecki <soocki AT mailbox.org> in
        B8665C93-F951-437B-BBD3-BBE5AB7112E8 AT mailbox.org"><B8665C93-F951-437B-BBD3-BBE5AB7112E8 AT mailbox.org>
      * Sebastian Makowiecki <soocki AT mailbox.org> in
        B41391A6-0328-44E0-ADFA-8A656C8CD965 AT mailbox.org"><B41391A6-0328-44E0-ADFA-8A656C8CD965 AT mailbox.org> (invalid as
        double voted)

Total counts:
Yes: 6; No: 5; Spoilt: 3; TOTAL: 14

Relative counts:
Yes: 6/14 = ~42.86%; No: 5/14 = ~35.71%; Spoilt: 3/14 = ~21.43%

Therefore:
Yes wins with highest number of votes.


I ask someone to step up and do a 3rd counting.


With best regards,

On Tue, 14 Aug 2018 20:41:29 -0400 (EDT), "Daniel Quintiliani" <danq AT runbox.com> wrote:

Voting starts: 8/15/2018 0040 UTC
Voting ends 8/22/2018 0040 UTC

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