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That sounds fine, but what does it mean?

From the discussion on this it would seem that
the "language" in this case is not about the spelling
of "yes" or "no", although it may be, but about any
word that may me used, even inadvertently, on the ML.
The discussion on this has not clarified the situation
one little bit. Voting yes to this does not tell me
what you want to vote yes to.

In any case, the vote is done now. I imagine that
some of the people voting yes had a personal idea
of what it is they were voting on and what the
effect of that would be.

~ Ole


On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 15:51:30 -0400
Timothy Rogers <opennic AT timothyfrancisrogers.me> wrote:

> If I am still allowed to vote, I vote Yes. I think it is
> important to standardize on a language. 
> 
> --
>   Timothy Rogers
>   opennic AT timothyfrancisrogers.me
> 
> On Wed, Aug 22, 2018, at 3:30 PM, Daniel Quintiliani
> wrote:
> > On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 15:27:55 -0400 (EDT), "Daniel
> > Quintiliani" <danq AT runbox.com> wrote:
> >   
> > > Al Beano changed his vote to No as did Sebastian.
> > > 
> > > 2018-08/msg00234.html
> > > 2018-08/msg00235.html
> > > 
> > > 2018-08/msg00131.html
> > > 2018-08/msg00217.html
> > > 
> > > Never before in the history of OpenNIC have changing
> > > your votes considered invalid.
> > > 
> > > Stop being an asshole and causing trouble.
> > > 
> > > --
> > > 
> > > -Dan Q
> > > 
> > > On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 13:11:14 +0000, Philipp Schafft
> > > <lion AT lion.leolix.org> wrote: 
> > > > Good afternoon,
> > > > 
> > > > On Tue, 2018-08-21 at 20:53 -0400, Daniel
> > > > Quintiliani wrote:  
> > > > > Yes (6):
> > > > > 
> > > > > Daniel Quintiliani
> > > > > Jonah Aragon
> > > > > Allen Schultz
> > > > > Dennis Emory Hannon
> > > > > Jacob Bachmeyer
> > > > > Vladimir F.
> > > > > 
> > > > > No (7):
> > > > > 
> > > > > Amunak
> > > > > Megan Parat
> > > > > Jack Ternan
> > > > > Sebastian Makowiecki*
> > > > > vv
> > > > > kevin
> > > > > Al Beano*
> > > > > 
> > > > > Invalid votes:
> > > > > 
> > > > > Philipp Schafft ("democracy")
> > > > > 
> > > > > * changed from invalid vote
> > > > > 
> > > > > Proposal failed to pass, 6-7  
> > > > 
> > > > I can not second this counting as I come to a
> > > > different counting.
> > > > 
> > > > I count as following:
> > > > 
> > > > Yes:
> > > >       * Vladimir F. <geek AT nabitw.xyz> in
> > > >         <15a5a48a-086b-bef3-8d90-06c01db6fe29 AT nabitw.xyz>
> > > >       * Allen Schultz <allen.schultz AT gmail.com> in
> > > > <CAP+RUJfu
> > > > +eFMWuwE7oKE-24SC9BQzyZS6gddqD2x_VZbOC53sQ AT mail.gmail.com>
> > > >       * Dennis Emory Hannon <info AT backplanedns.org>
> > > > in
> > > > <c30d9b4e-4126-2846-b2c0-b8aaaaeb9049 AT backplanedns.org>
> > > >       * Jacob Bachmeyer <jcb62281 AT gmail.com> in
> > > >         <5B78A264.2030600 AT gmail.com>
> > > >       * Jonah Aragon <jonah AT opennic.org> in
> > > >         <D48868E0-C33D-4EC4-B1D8-6C2FD79D69D8 AT opennic.org>
> > > >       * Daniel Quintiliani <danq AT runbox.com> in
> > > >         <E1fpjuH-0005gz-ER AT rmmprod07.runbox>
> > > > 
> > > > No:
> > > >       * Amunak <amunak AT amunak.net> in
> > > >         <97fc7d61-b0b6-4e0e-ce8f-4fb7e0b92e60 AT amunak.net>
> > > >       * Megan Parat <megan.parat AT yahoo.com> in
> > > >         <b47fcfe7-fc59-4340-3eab-dfbb4a0417b4 AT yahoo.com>
> > > >       * Jack Ternan <jackist AT email.com> in
> > > >         
> > > > <trinity-42ea374d-b4f4-49c3-b0ee-10010f652460-1534647456998@3c-app-mailcom-lxa13>
> > > >       * vv AT cgs.pw in <20180819005723.09dd06b1@SCO>
> > > >       * kevin <krattai AT gmail.com> in
> > > >         <1534680795.30790.0.camel AT gmail.com>
> > > > 
> > > > Spoilt:
> > > >       * Philipp Schafft <lion AT lion.leolix.org> in
> > > >         <1534336345.5822.21.camel AT lion.leolix.org>
> > > >       * Al Beano <albino AT autistici.org> in
> > > >         <fe497fa4-8e95-4e5b-930d-87eaea53168a AT autistici.org>
> > > >       * Al Beano <albino AT autistici.org> in
> > > >         <c1f25b84-2c8e-57ee-0b53-eb1928ebc5ed AT autistici.org>
> > > > (invalid as double voted)
> > > >       * Sebastian Makowiecki <soocki AT mailbox.org> in
> > > >         <B8665C93-F951-437B-BBD3-BBE5AB7112E8 AT mailbox.org>
> > > >       * Sebastian Makowiecki <soocki AT mailbox.org> in
> > > >         <B41391A6-0328-44E0-ADFA-8A656C8CD965 AT mailbox.org>
> > > > (invalid as double voted)
> > > > 
> > > > Total counts:
> > > > Yes: 6; No: 5; Spoilt: 3; TOTAL: 14
> > > > 
> > > > Relative counts:
> > > > Yes: 6/14 = ~42.86%; No: 5/14 = ~35.71%; Spoilt:
> > > > 3/14 = ~21.43%
> > > > 
> > > > Therefore:
> > > > Yes wins with highest number of votes.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I ask someone to step up and do a 3rd counting.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > With best regards,
> > > > 
> > > >   
> > > > > On Tue, 14 Aug 2018 20:41:29 -0400 (EDT), "Daniel
> > > > > Quintiliani" <danq AT runbox.com> wrote: 
> > > > > > Voting starts: 8/15/2018 0040 UTC
> > > > > > Voting ends 8/22/2018 0040 UTC
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 1. All OpenNIC proposals put up for vote shall
> > > > > > be in the English language. 2. All votes for
> > > > > > OpenNIC proposals shall be in the English
> > > > > > language, and votes which are not in English
> > > > > > shall be considered invalid.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > These rules are only applicable to proposals
> > > > > > put up for vote, and to the votes themselves.
> > > > > > These rules are not applicable to discussions
> > > > > > on the mailing list or on IRC.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The proposal shall take effect immediately
> > > > > > after passing.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > This vote shall be done in "Aye/Yes" and
> > > > > > "Nay/No" style. Only English language votes
> > > > > > shall be accepted.  
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > -- 
> > > > Philipp.
> > > >  (Rah of PH2)
> > > > 
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