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[Jeff Taylor <shdwdrgn AT sourpuss.net>]

    OK but I think you're missing the point.  You are trying to reach
    out to an industry of generally non-technical people (I.E. not
    computer geeks).  HOW are they going to view the domains in your
    TLD?  In most cases of manufacturing equipment that I am familiar
    with, the computers are rigidly controlled to ensure there is no
    chance of virus infection or unintended software updates.  So not
    only do you need to convince other manufacturers that it's
    worthwhile to change their DNS settings, but you also need to
    develop the software for their computers to keep up with a changing
    list of DNS servers, and probably be capable of reliably making the
    initial updates to their computers.  And you've already stated that
    you have no interest in maintaining a TLD server, so I'm not sure
    who you expect to write and maintain the code to update multiple
    operating systems?
    
    Beyond that, who will these manufacturers call for assistance when
    they have trouble reaching the internet because the DNS updates
    failed?  Who will they call to support them when they have trouble
    creating or renewing a domain?  This TLD is your project, so you are
    ultimately responsible for supporting your customer's domains.  Is
    that something you are ready to take on, or are you going to tell
    them to join this mailing list and wait a few days for someone to
    answer their queries?
    
    The reason I keep saying Opennic is not suitable for commercial
    applications is because you are asking businesses to change the very
    core of the way their computers connect to the internet.  Imagine if
    a company goes offline for an hour -- how much money did they lose
    during that period?  How much did they pay someone to troubleshoot
    the problem and get them back online?  And how does that compare to
    the $10/year that it costs to purchase a domain from ICANN and avoid
    the potential loss of business?

On 10/13/20 3:47 PM, postmaster wrote:

    There
      are at least a few dozen small shops in the NW suburbs of Chicago,
      and that is all I care about. Those shops cannot afford any
      Industry 4.0 advancements, but I can help them to begin with 
      digitizing their production floor.
      
      
      You must work in manufacturing to be able to see most the
      opportunities - yes, commercial opportunities. For example, for 3D
      printing I specialize in movement and storage, such as dovetails
      and rails.  Some of my prototypes are printed in PLA, then they
      are fitted with shim stock to reach accuracy. The plastic
      dovetails are opened to fit and route electrical wiring and mount
      sensors such as limit switches, cycle count, temperature and heat
      sensors. The PLA later is going to be replaced with molded nylon,
      the standard screws with precision threaded rods, the walls of
      storage with pierced steel. I help people design so their printed
      plastic is as close to manufacturing capacity as reasonable or
      practical.
      
      
      OpenNIC has a purpose, more later. industry 4.0 is a service
      stack, mostly edge-computing with proprietary gateways to the
      sensors and process - much like the self-checkout stations you see
      everywhere. In manufacturing this is much more complex, and it is
      still evolving. The reason i got into MAAS is to free myself from
      ICANN, and via VPN like ZeroTier or similar thechnologies make the
      NW Chicago Factory 4.0 network - entirely ICANN independent
      possible.
      
      
      The only reason you do not see how this could fit together is
      because you, unlike me, is not researching this for years.
      Industry 4.0 is way too large and too expensive for 99.99999
      percent of factory floors. I have much better ideas and solutions.
      
      
      But I am not going to write more until there are a few people
      interested. Again, manufacturing is not as exiting as free
      software or the theory of anarchy. Its a repetitive, rigid and
      unforgiving environment, but not without room to play.
      
      
      On 2020-10-13 15:11, Jeff Taylor wrote:
      
> So let me ask you... Who is your target
>         audience for creating this
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>         TLD?  There is no commercial application for it, but it sounds
>         like
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>         you want to create a domain space for manufacturers.  To me that
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>         appears contradictory, so I'm curious as to what purpose you
>         think it
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>         would serve?
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