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[Nicholson-Goult Hayden <hang AT hng.ovh>]

I hate to butt in, but I too had a TLD idea to replace .neo, Either .code or .codes, this have many uses like:

[name].codes

php.code

my.code (Possibly like GitHub)

Read.code

Lets.code

Then possibly free code storage at store.code? I can see endless possibilities for this TLD. I already have a system for how it would work as I host my own private TLD, and maybe a self signed certificate generator for the tld. So you install the root ca, and all is trusted.

What do you think?

11:27 pm, 13 October 2020, Jeff Taylor <shdwdrgn AT sourpuss.net>:

OK but I think you're missing the point.  You are trying to reach out to an industry of generally non-technical people (I.E. not computer geeks).  HOW are they going to view the domains in your TLD?  In most cases of manufacturing equipment that I am familiar with, the computers are rigidly controlled to ensure there is no chance of virus infection or unintended software updates.  So not only do you need to convince other manufacturers that it's worthwhile to change their DNS settings, but you also need to develop the software for their computers to keep up with a changing list of DNS servers, and probably be capable of reliably making the initial updates to their computers.  And you've already stated that you have no interest in maintaining a TLD server, so I'm not sure who you expect to write and maintain the code to update multiple operating systems?

Beyond that, who will these manufacturers call for assistance when they have trouble reaching the internet because the DNS updates failed?  Who will they call to support them when they have trouble creating or renewing a domain?  This TLD is your project, so you are ultimately responsible for supporting your customer's domains.  Is that something you are ready to take on, or are you going to tell them to join this mailing list and wait a few days for someone to answer their queries?

The reason I keep saying Opennic is not suitable for commercial applications is because you are asking businesses to change the very core of the way their computers connect to the internet.  Imagine if a company goes offline for an hour -- how much money did they lose during that period?  How much did they pay someone to troubleshoot the problem and get them back online?  And how does that compare to the $10/year that it costs to purchase a domain from ICANN and avoid the potential loss of business?

On 10/13/20 3:47 PM, postmaster wrote:

There are at least a few dozen small shops in the NW suburbs of Chicago, and that is all I care about. Those shops cannot afford any Industry 4.0 advancements, but I can help them to begin with  digitizing their production floor.

You must work in manufacturing to be able to see most the opportunities - yes, commercial opportunities. For example, for 3D printing I specialize in movement and storage, such as dovetails and rails.  Some of my prototypes are printed in PLA, then they are fitted with shim stock to reach accuracy. The plastic dovetails are opened to fit and route electrical wiring and mount sensors such as limit switches, cycle count, temperature and heat sensors. The PLA later is going to be replaced with molded nylon, the standard screws with precision threaded rods, the walls of storage with pierced steel. I help people design so their printed plastic is as close to manufacturing capacity as reasonable or practical.

OpenNIC has a purpose, more later. industry 4.0 is a service stack, mostly edge-computing with proprietary gateways to the sensors and process - much like the self-checkout stations you see everywhere. In manufacturing this is much more complex, and it is still evolving. The reason i got into MAAS is to free myself from ICANN, and via VPN like ZeroTier or similar thechnologies make the NW Chicago Factory 4.0 network - entirely ICANN independent possible.

The only reason you do not see how this could fit together is because you, unlike me, is not researching this for years. Industry 4.0 is way too large and too expensive for 99.99999 percent of factory floors. I have much better ideas and solutions.

But I am not going to write more until there are a few people interested. Again, manufacturing is not as exiting as free software or the theory of anarchy. Its a repetitive, rigid and unforgiving environment, but not without room to play.

On 2020-10-13 15:11, Jeff Taylor wrote:

So let me ask you... Who is your target audience for creating this
TLD?  There is no commercial application for it, but it sounds like
you want to create a domain space for manufacturers.  To me that
appears contradictory, so I'm curious as to what purpose you think it
would serve?



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