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[Erich Eckner <opennic AT eckner.net>]

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On Wed, 14 Oct 2020, Nicholson-Goult Hayden wrote:

> I hate to butt in, but I too had a TLD idea to replace .neo, Either .code or
> .codes, this have many uses like:
> [name].codes
> php.code
> my.code (Possibly like GitHub)
> Read.code
> Lets.code
>
>
> Then possibly free code storage at store.code? I can see endless
> possibilities for this TLD. I already have a system for how it would work as
> I host my own private TLD, and maybe a self signed certificate generator for
> the tld. So you install the root ca, and all is trusted.
>
> What do you think?

This sounds nice to me, but why don't you start a new thread about it? ;-)

regards,
Erich

> 11:27 pm, 13 October 2020, Jeff Taylor <shdwdrgn AT sourpuss.net>:
>       OK but I think you're missing the point.  You are trying to
>       reach out to an industry of generally non-technical people (I.E.
>       not computer geeks).  HOW are they going to view the domains in
>       your TLD?  In most cases of manufacturing equipment that I am
>       familiar with, the computers are rigidly controlled to ensure
>       there is no chance of virus infection or unintended software
>       updates.  So not only do you need to convince other
>       manufacturers that it's worthwhile to change their DNS settings,
>       but you also need to develop the software for their computers to
>       keep up with a changing list of DNS servers, and probably be
>       capable of reliably making the initial updates to their
>       computers.  And you've already stated that you have no interest
>       in maintaining a TLD server, so I'm not sure who you expect to
>       write and maintain the code to update multiple operating
>       systems?
>
>       Beyond that, who will these manufacturers call for assistance
>       when they have trouble reaching the internet because the DNS
>       updates failed?  Who will they call to support them when they
>       have trouble creating or renewing a domain?  This TLD is your
>       project, so you are ultimately responsible for supporting your
>       customer's domains.  Is that something you are ready to take on,
>       or are you going to tell them to join this mailing list and wait
>       a few days for someone to answer their queries?
>
>       The reason I keep saying Opennic is not suitable for commercial
>       applications is because you are asking businesses to change the
>       very core of the way their computers connect to the internet. 
>       Imagine if a company goes offline for an hour -- how much money
>       did they lose during that period?  How much did they pay someone
>       to troubleshoot the problem and get them back online?  And how
>       does that compare to the $10/year that it costs to purchase a
>       domain from ICANN and avoid the potential loss of business?
>
>
>       On 10/13/20 3:47 PM, postmaster wrote:
>       There are at least a few dozen small shops in the NW
>       suburbs of Chicago, and that is all I care about. Those
>       shops cannot afford any Industry 4.0 advancements, but I
>       can help them to begin with  digitizing their production
>       floor.
>
>       You must work in manufacturing to be able to see most the
>       opportunities - yes, commercial opportunities. For
>       example, for 3D printing I specialize in movement and
>       storage, such as dovetails and rails.  Some of my
>       prototypes are printed in PLA, then they are fitted with
>       shim stock to reach accuracy. The plastic dovetails are
>       opened to fit and route electrical wiring and mount
>       sensors such as limit switches, cycle count, temperature
>       and heat sensors. The PLA later is going to be replaced
>       with molded nylon, the standard screws with precision
>       threaded rods, the walls of storage with pierced steel. I
>       help people design so their printed plastic is as close to
>       manufacturing capacity as reasonable or practical.
>
>       OpenNIC has a purpose, more later. industry 4.0 is a
>       service stack, mostly edge-computing with proprietary
>       gateways to the sensors and process - much like the
>       self-checkout stations you see everywhere. In
>       manufacturing this is much more complex, and it is still
>       evolving. The reason i got into MAAS is to free myself
>       from ICANN, and via VPN like ZeroTier or similar
>       thechnologies make the NW Chicago Factory 4.0 network -
>       entirely ICANN independent possible.
>
>       The only reason you do not see how this could fit together
>       is because you, unlike me, is not researching this for
>       years. Industry 4.0 is way too large and too expensive for
>       99.99999 percent of factory floors. I have much better
>       ideas and solutions.
>
>       But I am not going to write more until there are a few
>       people interested. Again, manufacturing is not as exiting
>       as free software or the theory of anarchy. Its a
>       repetitive, rigid and unforgiving environment, but not
>       without room to play.
>
>       On 2020-10-13 15:11, Jeff Taylor wrote:
>             So let me ask you... Who is your target
>             audience for creating this
>             TLD?  There is no commercial application for
>             it, but it sounds like
>             you want to create a domain space for
>             manufacturers.  To me that
>             appears contradictory, so I'm curious as to
>             what purpose you think it
>             would serve?
>
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