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- From: Travis McCrea <me AT travismccrea.com>
- To: dns-operations AT lists.opennicproject.org
- Subject: Re: [opennic-dns-operations ] Server removal
- Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 13:54:36 -0700
Mike,
Perhaps we can have the wildcard set to *.com, at some point in the next 6 months most of the people using OpenNIC DNS will probably go to at least one .com and then they will get the notice.
Travis McCrea
Deputy Leader, Pirate Party of Canada
Chief Administrative Officer, Pirate Parties International
Captain, United States Pirate Party (PNC)
Member, Washington State Pirate Party
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The views expressed in this email represent my own personal values and not the values of the Pirate Party, the Pirate Ideology, or any of my associations.
On 2012-05-16, at 11:18 AM, mike wrote:
Travis,
I am sorry but I would tend to disagree on this.
What if a person is mostly not doing inter-web for instance? One might
be doing p2p development or ssh/telnet (.bbs for instance does a lot
of that), I think it's more troublesome to troubleshoot if you send
back the wrong IP address than if you simply don't respond.
I understand the argument for the redirecting, I just speak from
experience that it can be a frustrating and time consuming issue to
debug when you observer that you can ping "domain.tld" but your
application does not seem to be able to connect to the port you are
expecting to be able to connect to, only to eventually discover that
you are being handed the wrong IP address by the DNS resolver.
I think that a good solution to the somewhat transient nature of the
OpenNIC resolver pool is a client-side resolver evaluator along the
lines of http://sourceforge.net/projects/opennicwizard/ although I am
a little partial toward that particular effort. I am suggesting that the
transient nature of the resolver pool seems to ask for a client-side
solution that is adaptable to resolvers coming and going, until we can
get a lot more OpenNIC-friendly ISPs on board.
PS. I currently do not advocate using OpenNICWizard in a production
environment, although it is working quite well in many regards, it is
still in development. Also, for those who have been waiting, another
OpenNICWizard release is due out shortly, I freely admit that I am
guilty of slacking, sorry.
- --Mike
On 05/16/2012 03:39 AM, Travis McCrea wrote:
> Before a server is removed from service, I feel the T2 operator
> should redirect all queries to a page telling them that their DNS
> server will be disabled soon and that they should use new servers…
> this way people don't just have their DNS queries just stop
> responding Travis McCrea Deputy Leader, Pirate Party of Canada
> Chief Administrative Officer, Pirate Parties International Captain,
> United States Pirate Party (PNC) Member, Washington State Pirate
> Party
>
> Canada: 1(778)709-4859 US: 1(206)552-8728
>
> Twitter: @TeamColtra Facebook: fb.me/teamcoltra Blog:
> http://travismccrea.com
>
> The views expressed in this email represent my own personal values
> and not the values of the Pirate Party, the Pirate Ideology, or any
> of my associations.
>
> On 2012-05-15, at 5:29 AM, Jon Plews wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Please remove 89.16.173.11 from the server lists, it will be
>> going away by the end of the year. It is being replaced by
>> 213.138.101.252
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Jon
>
>
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- Re: [opennic-dns-operations ] Server removal, (continued)
- Re: [opennic-dns-operations ] Server removal, Jeff Taylor, 05/16/2012
- Re: [opennic-dns-operations ] Server removal, mike, 05/16/2012
- Re: [opennic-dns-operations ] Server removal, Alex Hanselka, 05/16/2012
- RE: [opennic-dns-operations ] Server removal, Joshua Berriadias, 05/16/2012
- Re: [opennic-dns-operations ] Server removal, Alex Hanselka, 05/16/2012
- Re: [opennic-dns-operations ] Server removal, Jonathan, 05/16/2012
- Re: [opennic-dns-operations ] Server removal, Alex Hanselka, 05/16/2012
- Re: [opennic-dns-operations ] Server removal, Falk Husemann, 05/17/2012
- Re: [opennic-dns-operations ] Server removal, Amrit Panesar, 05/17/2012
- Re: [opennic-dns-operations ] Server removal, Falk Husemann, 05/17/2012
- Re: [opennic-dns-operations ] Server removal, Alex Hanselka, 05/16/2012
- RE: [opennic-dns-operations ] Server removal, Joshua Berriadias, 05/16/2012
- Re: [opennic-dns-operations ] Server removal, Alex Hanselka, 05/16/2012
- Re: [opennic-dns-operations ] Server removal, Travis McCrea, 05/16/2012
- Re: [opennic-dns-operations ] Server removal, Brian Koontz, 05/16/2012
- Re: [opennic-dns-operations ] Server removal, Jon Plews, 05/16/2012
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