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  • From: Alex Hanselka <alex AT opennicproject.org>
  • To: dns-operations AT lists.opennicproject.org
  • Subject: Re: [opennic-dns-operations ] Server removal
  • Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 14:12:29 -0500

I agree, in this respect. I think the key to getting the users support is to
either offer a program of some sort to change their DNS and thus the program
would know if a server was going down, or somehow do Anycast (which is super
impossible for the record, but that is an option)




On May 16, 2012, at 1:18 PM, mike wrote:

> Travis,
>
> I am sorry but I would tend to disagree on this.
>
> What if a person is mostly not doing inter-web for instance? One might
> be doing p2p development or ssh/telnet (.bbs for instance does a lot
> of that), I think it's more troublesome to troubleshoot if you send
> back the wrong IP address than if you simply don't respond.
>
> I understand the argument for the redirecting, I just speak from
> experience that it can be a frustrating and time consuming issue to
> debug when you observer that you can ping "domain.tld" but your
> application does not seem to be able to connect to the port you are
> expecting to be able to connect to, only to eventually discover that
> you are being handed the wrong IP address by the DNS resolver.
>
> I think that a good solution to the somewhat transient nature of the
> OpenNIC resolver pool is a client-side resolver evaluator along the
> lines of http://sourceforge.net/projects/opennicwizard/ although I am
> a little partial toward that particular effort. I am suggesting that the
> transient nature of the resolver pool seems to ask for a client-side
> solution that is adaptable to resolvers coming and going, until we can
> get a lot more OpenNIC-friendly ISPs on board.
>
> PS. I currently do not advocate using OpenNICWizard in a production
> environment, although it is working quite well in many regards, it is
> still in development. Also, for those who have been waiting, another
> OpenNICWizard release is due out shortly, I freely admit that I am
> guilty of slacking, sorry.
>
> - --Mike
>
> On 05/16/2012 03:39 AM, Travis McCrea wrote:
> > Before a server is removed from service, I feel the T2 operator
> > should redirect all queries to a page telling them that their DNS
> > server will be disabled soon and that they should use new servers…
> > this way people don't just have their DNS queries just stop
> > responding Travis McCrea Deputy Leader, Pirate Party of Canada
> > Chief Administrative Officer, Pirate Parties International Captain,
> > United States Pirate Party (PNC) Member, Washington State Pirate
> > Party
> >
> > Canada: 1(778)709-4859 US: 1(206)552-8728
> >
> > Twitter: @TeamColtra Facebook: fb.me/teamcoltra Blog:
> > http://travismccrea.com
> >
> > The views expressed in this email represent my own personal values
> > and not the values of the Pirate Party, the Pirate Ideology, or any
> > of my associations.
> >
> > On 2012-05-15, at 5:29 AM, Jon Plews wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Please remove 89.16.173.11 from the server lists, it will be
> >> going away by the end of the year. It is being replaced by
> >> 213.138.101.252
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Jon
> >
> >
>

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