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Re: [opennic-dns-operations] Whitelist functions are now ready


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  • From: Will Furnell <willfurnell AT me.com>
  • To: dns-operations AT lists.opennicproject.org
  • Subject: Re: [opennic-dns-operations] Whitelist functions are now ready
  • Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 20:10:03 +0000

On 12/02/2014 20:01, Peter Green wrote:
This will never happen unless you intend on kicking me out of the
project or forcibly remove my server from the list, FYI.

I'm not sure I am that committed to the more pure 'open' ethos of things
as I have been viewing this topic more openly (ironically!), but I
perhaps should/will be and I commend you for your stance.

I have also been wondering about a comment made a while ago about the
truly open resolvers being hit harder due to the while-listed ones
shedding that bad user-base. Will the truly open resolvers survive this
move and is changing to whilelisting pure enough? I'm starting to think
not...

I like to be as open as possible in these matters and whilst I have
sympathy with T2 admin's that have fought, still fight or have even lost
that fight against the bad guys, somehow giving in to them and to some
degree locking down the OpenNIC services we offer feels a little like
selling out.

Will our legitimate users be put off by extra hoops to jump through? I
still find it hard to find anyone that is even vaguely interested in
what D.N.S. is and why it's a good thing to actively choose your
provider. People generally don't seem to care, we live in a "I just want
it to work" society. Add another obstacle to using OpenNIC and I think
we may say goodbye to many new users.

Just thinking out loud...

Peter


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Well, for the viewpoint of a 'legitimate user' I can say that I really wouldn't be bothered/find it not worth the hastle to set up a script that (if I did have a dynamic IP) would update my IP address to a whitelist page.
I would just want to set my DNS servers and forget about them, without worring if my IP has been updated properly and I am registered in the system.

I would be easier for me to put in, for example, Google's public DNS servers and use them than trying to register for OpenNIC and then keeping track etc...

Not to mention the wget idea won't work on Windows, or by default Mac OS X.

I know that servers are being attacked, but I feel that people won't use them if it takes them a lot of work just to start resolving queries.

Will.



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