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["JP Blankert (Tablet, seamonkey)" <jpblankert AT zonnet.nl>]

Yes, I am in for .aaa, opennic & Sarz

Philippe Blankert
> Dear J. P. Blankert ,
>
>
> Thank you for acknowledging the multitude and the potential of 
> Mamadomia Open Networking Foundation. ( a body organisation of many 
> organisations and individuals, united for youngness and openness in 
> action ).
>
> But now and here it is not the time and place to discuss all of that.
>
> OpenDuma Consortium is the place for debates not here.
>
> The Mamadomia as a name and concept represent THE YOUNGNESS & 
> OPENNESS, base on the perception of the fact that: Our Planet Earth is 
> our Mama Dom (domain, home, house, www, ect..., of and for youngness 
> and openness in progress) and ultimately we are all Mamadomians in 
> sense of real time prosperous existence, social, economical and 
> ecological collective duties and responsibilities within the never 
> ending process of and for Youngness. Where The Youngness and openness 
> in everything is the ultimate drive, flow and state of and for 
> progress and prosperity by any kind and meaning.
>
> Once upon a time the Internet WWW was an young alternative network, 
> place, rood and zone, an young innovation, with young approach and 
> young ideas, pioneering with young spirit and open drive.
>
> Today the Internet WWW Youngness is incrementally aging, the Openness 
> is mostly boxed and the young dynamics are stack in indefinite loops 
> of chats, discussions and ignorance for action.
>
> So, lets get to the point, now and here.
>
> Are you in? Opennic people.
>
> Are you for?
>
> Young INTERNET WWW, - AAA Project in progress.
>
> Are you for?
>
> Cooperativeness, collaboration, support and sponsorship of the 
> Mamadomia AAA project for Young People to Interact, Learn and Play 
> online and have the freedoms to be Young.
>
> That is all.
>
> Opennic people, are you in?
>
>
> Vahlinov, Andy Freedman
>
> Co-founder, and CEO at Mamadomia, Open Networking Foundation
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 2:38 AM, JP Blankert (Tablet, seamonkey) 
> <jpblankert AT zonnet.nl <mailto:jpblankert AT zonnet.nl>> wrote:
>
>     Aaah, Vahlinov = you = Freedman! Ok.
>
>     10% rate is very good. Seychelles IBC seems to be zero %, but
>     there may be other complications.
>
>     Is there an org chart to be seen, somewhere? As x people employed
>     ny Mamadomia, y parents envolved, turnover z/year, examples of
>     projects, etc etc? Chamber of commerce submission? Existing since?
>
>     I would say 'like Unicef has' but Mamadomia having other (and to
>     me: nicer) goals.
>
>     All the logo's on Mamadomia.eu: are these shareholders?
>
>     The one page site with registration around end March does not give
>     much info about  Mamadomia.......it could be a new, one man or few
>     man initiative. Nothing wrong with that, but if SARZ or opennic do
>     more work in your line, it would be nice to know as much about
>     Mamadomia (incl. available info) as one can know about Unicef.
>
>     .aaa remains a very nice project.
>
>     Best regards,
>
>     Philippe
>
>
>     A. Freedman schreef:
>
>
>         Dear jpblankert,
>
>
>         There is nothing critical here. Just a practicality.
>
>         You have nothing to fear, but the fear it self.
>
>
>         Bulgaria is offering a 10% flat tax rate, for foreign
>         organisations to do business. If you know some other place
>         with less tax rates for global organisations, please let me know.
>
>         You may consider to have a look whois Mamadomia.org,
>         TransTelematics.net and so on.
>
>         Or you can just look at my personal public profile in the
>         LinkedIn, it is open to all.
>
>         So OpenDuma is OpenDuma, no more and no less, open for every one.
>
>         The Young People are priority number 1.
>
>         The Young People are priority AAA, not B, not C, not X, not Z.
>
>         Mamadomia is a NPO/NGO organisation sponsoring the AAA project
>         for the Young People future. It is open to any one, at any time.
>
>         I am personalty *Born in Bulgaria and Made in West*.
>
>
>         Andy Freedman (Vahlinov)
>
>
>
>
>         On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 5:14 AM, JP Blankert (Tablet,
>         seamonkey) <jpblankert AT zonnet.nl <mailto:jpblankert AT zonnet.nl>
>         <mailto:jpblankert AT zonnet.nl <mailto:jpblankert AT zonnet.nl>>>
>         wrote:
>
>            Underneath is a critical remark about Mamadomia. I looked up in
>            whois .eu (because of mamadomia.eu <http://mamadomia.eu>
>         <http://mamadomia.eu>) and got
>
>            following info. I will mail some emails mentioned there to
>         check
>            out as well
>
>            BR,
>
>            Philippe
>
>
>                Whois Result
>
>
>                  Domain
>
>            Name    mamadomia
>            Status  REGISTERED(What this means) <http://www.eurid.eu/en/
>            become-registrar/lookup- services/whois-statuses
>         <http://www.eurid.eu/en/ become-registrar/lookup-
>         services/whois-statuses
>         
> <http://www.eurid.eu/en/become-registrar/lookup-services/whois-statuses>>>
>            How to dispute this registration <http://www.eurid.eu/en/eu-
>            domain-names/disputes
>         <http://www.eurid.eu/en/eu- domain-names/disputes
>         <http://www.eurid.eu/en/eu-domain-names/disputes>>>
>            Registered      25 March, 2011
>            Expiry Date     31 March, 2012
>            Last update     25 March, 2011, 9:29 am
>
>
>                  Registrant
>
>            Name    Atanas Vahlinov
>            Organisation    Atanas Vahlinov
>            Language        Bulgarian
>            Address
>
>
>
>            Phone
>            Email
>
>
>                  Registrar technical contacts
>
>            Name    Phil Rittscher
>            Organisation    DomainPeople, Inc.
>            Language        English
>            Address
>
>
>
>            Phone
>            Fax
>            Email
>
>
>                  Registrar
>
>            Organisation    DomainPeople, Inc.
>            Website www.domainpeople.com <http://www.domainpeople.com>
>         <http://www.domainpeople.com>
>
>
>                  Name servers
>
>
>         sp1.domainpeople.com <http://sp1.domainpeople.com>
>         <http://sp1.domainpeople.com>
>
>         sp2.domainpeople.com <http://sp2.domainpeople.com>
>         <http://sp2.domainpeople.com>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>                -------- Originele bericht --------
>                Onderwerp:     Re: [opennic-discuss] .AAA: Open
>         Internet Web
>                for Young People to play and learn.
>                Datum:     Tue, 12 Jul 2011 10:55:51 +0200
>                Van:     Psilo <dns AT psilo.org <mailto:dns AT psilo.org>
>         <mailto:dns AT psilo.org <mailto:dns AT psilo.org>>>
>
>                Antwoord-naar: discuss AT lists.opennicproject. org
>         <mailto:discuss@lists. opennicproject.org
>         <mailto:discuss AT lists.opennicproject.org>>
>                Aan: discuss AT lists.opennicproject. org
>         <mailto:discuss@lists. opennicproject.org
>         <mailto:discuss AT lists.opennicproject.org>>
>
>
>
>                Mamadomia, TransTelematics, OpenDuma, Eco-Health
>                Enterprises... WTF?
>                I don't trust any of this.
>
>
>                2011/7/11 A. Freedman <transtelematics AT gmail.com
>         <mailto:transtelematics AT gmail.com>
>         <mailto:transtelematics@gmail. com
>         <mailto:transtelematics AT gmail.com>>
>         <mailto:transtelematics@gmail <mailto:transtelematics@gmail>. com
>
>         <mailto:transtelematics@gmail. com
>         <mailto:transtelematics AT gmail.com>>>>
>
>                  What we are talking about here is all about:
>
>                  Fundamental Priorities AAA, and  Collective Open Social
>                  Responsibilities for the  future of the Young People
>         and the
>                upcoming
>                  generations of young people, to have the fundamental
>                freedoms to be
>                  Young.
>                  To have the freedoms to Interact, Learn and Play
>         online as Young
>                  People in them own most natural way.
>
>                  What we talking about here is all about;
>
>                  That the development of the Young People is priority
>         AAA,(in
>                the real
>                  life)  and that the Open IT, ICT, Telematics and
>         TransTelematics
>                  online base developments  for Young People must be a
>                Priority AAA, for
>                  all Open Source, Core and Education developments and
>                projects by any
>                  kind and mean.
>
>                  Young Internet (web, ect...)  for Young People
>         Development
>                must be a
>                  Priority AAA.
>                  The Young People to have the freedoms to be Young, to
>         grow
>                and let
>                  grow  as an Young People.
>
>                  That is all, it is all about Priorities, Duties and
>                Collective Social
>                  Responsibilities for all of us;
>                  To Openup the way, to support, sponsor, develop and
>         secure
>                the future
>                  of the Young People Internet.
>
>                  The Open proficient people to guide, educators to
>         educate,
>                developers
>                  to develop, the open media to publish and distribute
>         that as
>                Priority
>                  AAA.
>
>                  Vahlinov Andy Freedman,
>
>
>                  On 7/5/11, Psilo <dns AT psilo.org
>         <mailto:dns AT psilo.org> <mailto:dns AT psilo.org
>         <mailto:dns AT psilo.org>>
>         <mailto:dns AT psilo.org <mailto:dns AT psilo.org>
>         <mailto:dns AT psilo.org <mailto:dns AT psilo.org>>>> wrote:
>         > What are we talking about here?
>         > What is this AAA project all about? When I read their message I
>                  thought it
>         > was a scam!
>         > What is SARZ?
>         > What is the relationship between the two initiatives?
>         >
>         > Many questions...
>         >
>         >
>         > 2011/7/5 JP Blankert (Tablet, seamonkey)
>         <jpblankert AT zonnet.nl <mailto:jpblankert AT zonnet.nl>
>         <mailto:jpblankert AT zonnet.nl <mailto:jpblankert AT zonnet.nl>>
>         <mailto:jpblankert AT zonnet.nl <mailto:jpblankert AT zonnet.nl>
>         <mailto:jpblankert AT zonnet.nl <mailto:jpblankert AT zonnet.nl>>> >
>
>         >
>         >> Dear all,
>         >>
>         >> I am much a fan of this .AAA project.
>         >>
>         >> Two things that come into mind:
>         >> a) legal institutioanlisation.....are youngsters allowed to
>                  register a
>         >> domain - or I would say: let's make possible.....but 18+ could
>                  creep in en
>         >> act like 18-, and police is always happy to arrest youngsters
>                  (at least in
>         >> Europe) under the pretext of 'hacking' though policepeople I
>                  think have my
>         >> no means the intelligence to understand hacking. These kind of
>                  issues can
>         >> better be dealt with upfront than afterwards.
>         >> b) costs of Icann application are very high regardless the
>                  outcome, and
>         >> chances of approval very low.
>         >>
>         >> I think opennic is a fine party to go with, as well as the
>         >> SARZ/alternative
>         >> Root Zone I chair, as well as Unified Root.
>         >>
>         >> Opennic has most experience with alternative DNS I think,
>                but in
>                  order to
>         >> see opennic domains one must change DNS settings in the PC.
>         >>
>         >> That is why we, SARZ, are finalising a browser in which an
>                alt DNS
>         >> resolver
>         >> is built in (somehting Unified Root already has). And we
>                will go
>                  on with
>         >> search engine for alt names, something Opennic is further
>                with (mngo
>         >> search?).
>         >>
>         >> Unified root is in my opinion far away from a search
>                  engine.....their
>         >> browser works fine but exists since 2006 I think and since then
>                  little
>         >> progress has been made in the company. Decision and mgt. is
>                made by
>         >> investors and not technical people.
>         >>
>         >> I hope above is a fair representation. If opennic agrees to
>                  .AAA, I think
>         >> they are the quickest to realise the domain. SARZ hopes to be
>                  quick to
>         >> have
>         >> browser and s-engine and is prepared to include opennic
>                  extensions to be
>         >> visible in the browser. If opennic's mngo search is prepared to
>                  index
>         >> .AAA,
>         >> the circle is complete. But youngster need to be told what
>                  browser to use
>         >> and what search engine - Internet Explorer (to see it) and
>                  Google (to
>         >> search) will not work. IE and Google will work in case of Icann
>         >> recognition,
>         >> but that can take much money and many years.
>         >>
>         >> Maybe things can go in parallel, if people agree. Quick
>                  realisation by
>         >> opennic and in parallel attempt to be Icann recognised.
>         >>
>         >> Best regards!
>         >>
>         >> Philippe (opennic & Sarz) July 5, 2011
>         >>
>         >> A. Freedman schreef:
>         >>
>         >>>
>         >>> Hi to All,
>         >>>
>         >>>
>         >>> Re: Open Internet Web for Young People to interact, play
>                and learn.
>         >>>
>         >>>
>         >>> Just a short announcement to let you all know, that the
>                Mamadomia (
>         >>> http://www.mamadomia.eu <http://www.mamadomia.eu/>) initial
>                  Kids Internet
>         >>> Project and the proposed one of the TLD extension (.AAA)
>                is now
>                  pending
>         >>> to
>         >>> be incorporated as well within the Alternative and/or United
>                  Root Zoning
>         >>> as
>         >>> integral part of the TLD Global Intercloud TransTelematics
>                  Internet (Web)
>         >>> for Young People to Play and Learn in the 21century
>                efficient way.
>         >>>
>         >>>
>         >>> Note: Please note that the current Mamadomia for Young People
>                  projects
>         >>> development are in the evolutionary state of development is
>                  procreating
>         >>> as
>         >>> other ICT and Internet environmental mutations take please.
>                  Such as other
>         >>> Open developments and initiative are in motion. For example
>                  NPO, NGO Open
>         >>> Networking Foundation
>         >>> (http://www.**opennetworkingfo undation.org/
>         <http://undation.org/>
>         <http:// opennetworkingfoundation.org/
>         <http://opennetworkingfoundation.org/>>
>         <http:// opennetworkingfoundation.org/
>         <http://opennetworkingfoundation.org/>
>
>         <http:// opennetworkingfoundation.org/
>         <http://opennetworkingfoundation.org/>> > <http://www.
>         opennetworkingfoundation.org/
>         <http://opennetworkingfoundation.org/>
>         <http://www. opennetworkingfoundation.org/
>         <http://www.opennetworkingfoundation.org/>> > )
>         >>> corporate venture establishments and many others to be
>                  considered in the
>         >>> Open Space Internet environment for the Young People
>                freedoms to
>         >>> Interact,
>         >>> Play and Learn.
>         >>>
>         >>> Your input concerning above matters are of critical importance
>                  for the
>         >>> Young People to Inteeract, Play and Learn within
>                sustainable 21
>                  century
>         >>> Internet (Web) environment for the young.
>         >>>
>         >>>
>         >>> Andy Freedman
>         >>>
>         >>> CEO, Mamadomia OpenDuma Foundation
>         >>>
>         >>>
>         >>>
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