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  • From: "Hanselka, Alex" <alex AT hanselka.name>
  • To: ventas AT dedicados.com.mx, discuss AT lists.opennicproject.org
  • Subject: Re: [opennic-discuss] Fwd: PROPOSAL .nice TLD
  • Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 21:13:19 -0500
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Sounds reasonable as well. Cool :)

On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Hospedaje Web y Servidores Dedicados <
ventas AT dedicados.com.mx> wrote:

>
> Ok thinking about this i want to update my charter but cant access to
> wiki.opennic.glue
>
> but here is a short idea:
> No limits about anything, you are responsible of the content, not me or
> opennic.
> You can register the quantity of domains you want.
> only domains with 1 or 2 letters will be registered if registrant give a
> donation to support server.
>
> Depending of the usage of the TLD, we can offer free hosting and more
> stuff.
>
> alex.
>
>
>
>
>
> -------- Mensaje original --------
> Asunto: Re: [opennic-discuss] Fwd: PROPOSAL .nice TLD
> Fecha: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 17:07:52 -0500
> De: Hospedaje Web y Servidores Dedicados <ventas AT dedicados.com.mx>
> Responder a: ventas AT dedicados.com.mx
> Para: discuss AT lists.opennicproject.**org<discuss AT lists.opennicproject.org>
>
>
>
> Ing. Alejandro M.
> Hospedaje Web y Servidores Dedicados
> http://www.dedicados.com.mx
> ------
> correo / msn:ventas AT dedicados.com.mx
> skype: dedicados
> ------
>
> El 12/08/2011 04:58 p.m., Christopher escribió:
>
>> Overall the charter seems fine to me. The only issue I have is the
>> vagueness of the domain limit of 10 with a tolerance of 3. I think it
>> should just be a fixed number, as there's no sense in saying it's 10
>> if it can also be 13.
>>
> i want suggestions about how many are good enought, for now let change
> the limit to *20*.
>
> Additionally, in regards to the limit, since you're thinking of
>> charging for one and two letter domains to help support the costs of
>> running the service, maybe allow non-OpenNIC members to register more
>> than the limit if they pay for them.
>>
> i forgot that part, maybe>20 domains is $2 dlls each, to support the
> server, 20 free and next are paid for 2 dollar yearly.
>
> You may want to clarify the requirements in the "Trademarks and Big
>> Corporations" section, as it's very easy to put a link to OpenNIC on
>> some page no one will ever go to, or have a link small enough no one
>> will ever see it.
>>
> Actually thats why i ask about a official logo or size, so the same size
> added for all websites. Logo and link must be on MAIN PAGE.
>
> Other than that I think it is decent.
>>
> im going to update the charter to this changes, and you can view it on
> http://wiki.opennic.glue/**proposaldotNiceTLD<http://wiki.opennic.glue/proposaldotNiceTLD>
>
> Thanks
>
> Alex!!
>
>
> -
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 4:17 PM, Hanselka, Alex<alex AT hanselka.name>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> That is an intense charter. I kinda like it, to be honest :)
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Hospedaje Web y Servidores Dedicados
>>> <ventas AT dedicados.com.mx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> here is my charter:
>>>>
>>>> --BEGIN--
>>>> Charter
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> .nice TLD - in the following document referred to as NIC.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Proposal
>>>>
>>>> .nice is a TLD meant as generic name space for general purposes like
>>>>
>>>> ICANN's .com, .org and .net TLD has been used (or misued by accident).
>>>>
>>>> a larger list of exceptions for abusive behavior and non-legitime
>>>> contents
>>>>
>>>> is to be found in the policy to prevent disputes and criminal activity.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Policy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> By Registering a NIC domain the Registrant agrees to the Policy.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This Policy complies
>>>> withOpenNIC<http://wiki.**opennic.glue/OpenNIC<http://wiki.opennic.glue/OpenNIC>
>>>> >
>>>> Policies
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> (http://wiki.opennic.glue/**OpenNICPolicies<http://wiki.opennic.glue/OpenNICPolicies>
>>>> )
>>>>
>>>> <http://wiki.opennic.glue/**OpenNICPolicies%29<http://wiki.opennic.glue/OpenNICPolicies%29>
>>>> >.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Registration
>>>>
>>>> NIC domains can be registered by any individual or for an entity by an
>>>>
>>>> individual/natural person. Registrations may be challenged at any time
>>>>
>>>> if they are not held by an individual or if the holder cannot prove an
>>>>
>>>> outside relation justifying reservation of the name, to prevent
>>>>
>>>> "Cybersquatting". further exceptions are listed below.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Limitations
>>>>
>>>> until further changes to the policy a registrant is allowed to hold a
>>>>
>>>> maximum of 10 domains (including a tollerance of 3) with exception to
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> OpenNIC<http://wiki.opennic.**glue/OpenNIC<http://wiki.opennic.glue/OpenNIC>>
>>>> members, larger amounts of
>>>> domain registrations ( more than 13 ) require to
>>>>
>>>> request a quote including purpose of usage. (send your request to
>>>>
>>>> quote AT dot.nice)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> domain names must be at least 3 characters long and can be at most 63
>>>>
>>>> characters long, a domain excluding TLD should never have more than 5
>>>>
>>>> labels to prevent dns spam.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> shorter domains have cost, this cost is to support opennic servers and
>>>> maintenance
>>>>
>>>> of the network.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2 char domains $xxx<- open to suggestions
>>>>
>>>> 1 char domain $xxx<- suggest me.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Activity
>>>>
>>>> NIC reserves the right to remove any domain not resolvable for more
>>>> than
>>>>
>>>> 2 weeks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nameserver Configuration
>>>>
>>>> NIC requires to setup a valid Zonefile, this includes a valid SOA and 2
>>>> NS.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Non-Profit clause
>>>>
>>>> As this TLD is made available not for profit, domains (including
>>>>
>>>> subdomains) may not be transferred for compensation.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Prohibited contents and behavior
>>>>
>>>> • the content of each domain is responsibility of the domain owner
>>>>
>>>> • opennic is not responsable for the content, if the law of any country
>>>>
>>>> ask us about that content, we point them to you.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Trademarks and Big Corporations:
>>>>
>>>> corporations, large enterprises (>50 employess) and financial entities
>>>>
>>>> are allowed to expand their business under a NICE TLD with the
>>>> condition
>>>>
>>>> to add an opennic logo or link on their web site.
>>>>
>>>> In case of a registered trademark, it is possible for the responsible
>>>> to
>>>>
>>>> send a request to have their name registered by NIC and suspend
>>>>
>>>> definitively or http forward to a given URL.
>>>>
>>>> (This process requires verification, any cost created by this process
>>>>
>>>> will be covered by the responsible in question).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Privacy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> • Personal data will only be collected and used if required for the
>>>>
>>>> creation or modification of a Handle. The registrant is obligated to
>>>>
>>>> keep this information up to date. The Registrant's Email address will
>>>>
>>>> only be used for information regarding their registered domains, policy
>>>>
>>>> changes and major system changes.
>>>>
>>>> • NIC does not give any personal information to third parties, with the
>>>>
>>>> exception
>>>> ofOpenNIC<http://wiki.opennic.**glue/OpenNIC<http://wiki.opennic.glue/OpenNIC>>
>>>> as far as they are
>>>> required to reasonably or forced
>>>>
>>>> by law.
>>>>
>>>> • The registrant has the right to information and a right to amend, to
>>>>
>>>> suspend or to delete his saved information. If deletion conflicts with
>>>> a
>>>>
>>>> legal or contractual duty to save information, or other legal grounds,
>>>>
>>>> the information will be made inaccessible.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Warranty and Liability
>>>>
>>>> NIC tries to be as reliable and responsible as possible, however there
>>>>
>>>> is no warranty for availability. For direct damages, secondary damages
>>>>
>>>> or lost profits due to technical problems and disturbances we assume no
>>>>
>>>> liability.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In addition, the Registrant agrees to free NIC from all claims by third
>>>>
>>>> parties in regard to illegal content or activity. The exemption
>>>>
>>>> obligation includes liability for all legal defence costs.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Updates
>>>>
>>>> Minor changes, changes which will not affect registered domains, to the
>>>>
>>>> policy can be made without notice in order to close loopholes quickly
>>>>
>>>> and responsibly.
>>>>
>>>> Changes which require to be voted on will be announced at least one
>>>> week
>>>>
>>>> before taking effect.
>>>> --END--
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> also added to
>>>> wiki:http://wiki.opennic.glue/**proposaldotNiceTLD<http://wiki.opennic.glue/proposaldotNiceTLD>
>>>>
>>>> about resources, i have one server ready to be tier1 running on 100mbps
>>>> network.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ing. Alejandro M.
>>>> Hospedaje Web y Servidores Dedicados
>>>> http://www.dedicados.com.mx
>>>> ------
>>>> correo /msn:ventas AT dedicados.com.mx
>>>> skype: dedicados
>>>> ------
>>>>
>>>> El 12/08/2011 01:21 a.m., Julian DeMarchi escribió:
>>>>
>>>>> On 08/12/2011 02:37 PM, Hospedaje Web y Servidores Dedicados wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think we need to have freedom when we select the TLD of our
>>>>>> choice,
>>>>>> and content of the site. Because we are breaking the sense to be and
>>>>>> stay
>>>>>> "free" in opennic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My proposal: .nice can be used for everything and the content inside
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> your domain, is responsibly of the domain owner, not opennic or
>>>>>> domain
>>>>>> registrant (dot.nice) for example.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And that is going to be on the "terms of service" of .nice
>>>>>>
>>>>> do you currently have the resources to run .nice?
>>>>>
>>>>> can you please point me to your charter so I can read? :)
>>>>>
>>>>
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