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[Travis McCrea <me AT travismccrea.com>]

I am still nervous about you running any TLD at this point. However, we
all make mistakes, and it's how we adapt that shows our true character
and you have shown that you can compromise. 

I will be in support of the .nice TLD after seeing its final charter

On Mon, 2011-08-22 at 17:46 -0500, Hospedaje Web y Servidores Dedicados
wrote:
> Ok thinking about this i want to update my charter but cant access to 
> wiki.opennic.glue
> 
> but here is a short idea:
> No limits about anything, you are responsible of the content, not me or 
> opennic.
> You can register the quantity of domains you want.
> only domains with 1 or 2 letters will be registered if registrant give a 
> donation to support server.
> 
> Depending of the usage of the TLD, we can offer free hosting and more stuff.
> 
> alex.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -------- Mensaje original --------
> Asunto:       Re: [opennic-discuss] Fwd: PROPOSAL .nice TLD
> Fecha:        Fri, 12 Aug 2011 17:07:52 -0500
> De:   Hospedaje Web y Servidores Dedicados <ventas AT dedicados.com.mx>
> Responder a:  ventas AT dedicados.com.mx
> Para:         discuss AT lists.opennicproject.org
> 
> 
> 
> Ing. Alejandro M.
> Hospedaje Web y Servidores Dedicados
> http://www.dedicados.com.mx
> ------
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> 
> El 12/08/2011 04:58 p.m., Christopher escribió:
> >  Overall the charter seems fine to me. The only issue I have is the
> >  vagueness of the domain limit of 10 with a tolerance of 3. I think it
> >  should just be a fixed number, as there's no sense in saying it's 10
> >  if it can also be 13.
> i want suggestions about how many are good enought, for now let change
> the limit to *20*.
> 
> >  Additionally, in regards to the limit, since you're thinking of
> >  charging for one and two letter domains to help support the costs of
> >  running the service, maybe allow non-OpenNIC members to register more
> >  than the limit if they pay for them.
> i forgot that part, maybe>20 domains is $2 dlls each, to support the
> server, 20 free and next are paid for 2 dollar yearly.
> 
> >  You may want to clarify the requirements in the "Trademarks and Big
> >  Corporations" section, as it's very easy to put a link to OpenNIC on
> >  some page no one will ever go to, or have a link small enough no one
> >  will ever see it.
> Actually thats why i ask about a official logo or size, so the same size
> added for all websites. Logo and link must be on MAIN PAGE.
> 
> >  Other than that I think it is decent.
> im going to update the charter to this changes, and you can view it on
> http://wiki.opennic.glue/proposaldotNiceTLD
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Alex!!
> 
> 
> >  -
> >
> >  On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 4:17 PM, Hanselka, Alex<alex AT hanselka.name>   
> > wrote:
> >>  That is an intense charter. I kinda like it, to be honest :)
> >>
> >>  On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Hospedaje Web y Servidores Dedicados
> >>  <ventas AT dedicados.com.mx>   wrote:
> >>>  here is my charter:
> >>>
> >>>  --BEGIN--
> >>>  Charter
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  .nice TLD - in the following document referred to as NIC.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  Proposal
> >>>
> >>>  .nice is a TLD meant as generic name space for general purposes like
> >>>
> >>>  ICANN's .com, .org and .net TLD has been used (or misued by accident).
> >>>
> >>>  a larger list of exceptions for abusive behavior and non-legitime 
> >>> contents
> >>>
> >>>  is to be found in the policy to prevent disputes and criminal activity.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  Policy
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  By Registering a NIC domain the Registrant agrees to the Policy.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  This Policy complies withOpenNIC<http://wiki.opennic.glue/OpenNIC>
> >>>    Policies
> >>>
> >>>  (http://wiki.opennic.glue/OpenNICPolicies)
> >>>    <http://wiki.opennic.glue/OpenNICPolicies%29>.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  Registration
> >>>
> >>>  NIC domains can be registered by any individual or for an entity by an
> >>>
> >>>  individual/natural person. Registrations may be challenged at any time
> >>>
> >>>  if they are not held by an individual or if the holder cannot prove an
> >>>
> >>>  outside relation justifying reservation of the name, to prevent
> >>>
> >>>  "Cybersquatting". further exceptions are listed below.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  Limitations
> >>>
> >>>  until further changes to the policy a registrant is allowed to hold a
> >>>
> >>>  maximum of 10 domains (including a tollerance of 3) with exception to
> >>>
> >>>  OpenNIC<http://wiki.opennic.glue/OpenNIC>     members, larger amounts 
> >>> of
> >>>  domain registrations ( more than 13 ) require to
> >>>
> >>>  request a quote including purpose of usage. (send your request to
> >>>
> >>>  quote AT dot.nice)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  domain names must be at least 3 characters long and can be at most 63
> >>>
> >>>  characters long, a domain excluding TLD should never have more than 5
> >>>
> >>>  labels to prevent dns spam.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  shorter domains have cost, this cost is to support opennic servers and
> >>>  maintenance
> >>>
> >>>  of the network.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  2 char domains $xxx<- open to suggestions
> >>>
> >>>  1 char domain $xxx<- suggest me.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  Activity
> >>>
> >>>  NIC reserves the right to remove any domain not resolvable for more 
> >>> than
> >>>
> >>>  2 weeks.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  Nameserver Configuration
> >>>
> >>>  NIC requires to setup a valid Zonefile, this includes a valid SOA and 
> >>> 2 NS.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  Non-Profit clause
> >>>
> >>>  As this TLD is made available not for profit, domains (including
> >>>
> >>>  subdomains) may not be transferred for compensation.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  Prohibited contents and behavior
> >>>
> >>>  • the content of each domain is responsibility of the domain owner
> >>>
> >>>  • opennic is not responsable for the content, if the law of any country
> >>>
> >>>  ask us about that content, we point them to you.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  Trademarks and Big Corporations:
> >>>
> >>>  corporations, large enterprises (>50 employess) and financial entities
> >>>
> >>>  are allowed  to expand their business under a NICE TLD with the 
> >>> condition
> >>>
> >>>  to add an opennic logo or link on their web site.
> >>>
> >>>  In case of a registered trademark, it is possible for the responsible 
> >>> to
> >>>
> >>>  send a request to have their name registered by NIC and suspend
> >>>
> >>>  definitively or http forward to a given URL.
> >>>
> >>>  (This process requires verification, any cost created by this process
> >>>
> >>>  will be covered by the responsible in question).
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  Privacy
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  • Personal data will only be collected and used if required for the
> >>>
> >>>  creation or modification of a Handle. The registrant is obligated to
> >>>
> >>>  keep this information up to date. The Registrant's Email address will
> >>>
> >>>  only be used for information regarding their registered domains, policy
> >>>
> >>>  changes and major system changes.
> >>>
> >>>  • NIC does not give any personal information to third parties, with the
> >>>
> >>>  exception ofOpenNIC<http://wiki.opennic.glue/OpenNIC>     as far as 
> >>> they are
> >>>  required to reasonably or forced
> >>>
> >>>  by law.
> >>>
> >>>  • The registrant has the right to information and a right to amend, to
> >>>
> >>>  suspend or to delete his saved information. If deletion conflicts with 
> >>> a
> >>>
> >>>  legal or contractual duty to save information, or other legal grounds,
> >>>
> >>>  the information will be made inaccessible.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  Warranty and Liability
> >>>
> >>>  NIC tries to be as reliable and responsible as possible, however there
> >>>
> >>>  is no warranty for availability. For direct damages, secondary damages
> >>>
> >>>  or lost profits due to technical problems and disturbances we assume no
> >>>
> >>>  liability.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  In addition, the Registrant agrees to free NIC from all claims by third
> >>>
> >>>  parties in regard to illegal content or activity. The exemption
> >>>
> >>>  obligation includes liability for all legal defence costs.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  Updates
> >>>
> >>>  Minor changes, changes which will not affect registered domains, to the
> >>>
> >>>  policy can be made without notice in order to close loopholes quickly
> >>>
> >>>  and responsibly.
> >>>
> >>>  Changes which require to be voted on will be announced at least one 
> >>> week
> >>>
> >>>  before taking effect.
> >>>  --END--
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>    also added to wiki:http://wiki.opennic.glue/proposaldotNiceTLD
> >>>
> >>>  about resources, i have one server ready to be tier1 running on 100mbps
> >>>  network.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  Ing. Alejandro M.
> >>>  Hospedaje Web y Servidores Dedicados
> >>>  http://www.dedicados.com.mx
> >>>  ------
> >>>  correo /msn:ventas AT dedicados.com.mx
> >>>  skype: dedicados
> >>>  ------
> >>>
> >>>  El 12/08/2011 01:21 a.m., Julian DeMarchi escribió:
> >>>>    On 08/12/2011 02:37 PM, Hospedaje Web y Servidores Dedicados wrote:
> >>>>>    I think we need to have freedom when we select the TLD of our 
> >>>>> choice,
> >>>>>  and content of the site. Because we are breaking the sense to be and 
> >>>>> stay
> >>>>>  "free" in opennic.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>    My proposal: .nice can be used for everything and the content 
> >>>>> inside of
> >>>>>  your domain, is responsibly of the domain owner, not opennic or 
> >>>>> domain
> >>>>>  registrant (dot.nice) for example.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>    And that is going to be on the "terms of service" of .nice
> >>>>    do you currently have the resources to run .nice?
> >>>>
> >>>>    can you please point me to your charter so I can read? :)
> 
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