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  • From: Coyo <coyo AT darkdna.net>
  • To: discuss AT lists.opennicproject.org
  • Subject: Re: [opennic-discuss] Farce?
  • Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2014 05:58:33 -0500

the internet and the web are not the same. one is better than the other, and the other leaches on the first. this journalist isnt the only person who thinks that nameservers exist to serve the world wide web and ONLY the web. there are over 16 thousand TCP ports and over 16 thousand UDP ports, a little over the first thousand of both are privleged.

there are a thousand other protocols OTHER than HTTP in use at any given moment, not including DNS itself, gopher, xmpp, usenet, bittorrent, bitcoin, sip, irc, smtp, silc, tor, i2p, openvpn, and that's just common ones based on tcp and udp, there are many other protocols other than tcp and udp, and there are many other protocols besides ipv4 and ipv6 that the less pedantic consider "internet" protocols. there are a billion other things besides http over tcp over ipv4.

what annoys me the most is NOT when idiot reporters get this wrong. the news is always incompetent and misinformed at best. no, it is when network engineers make this mistake that grinds my gears.

On March 8, 2014 5:36:12 AM EST, Alejandro Bonet <albogoal AT gmail.com> wrote:
Are there some guys capable to "switch off" english, chinese or
spanish languages?

Alejandro Bonet
albogoal AT gmail.com

PD: Internet is another language, like these...


2014-03-08 11:32 GMT+01:00, Alejandro Bonet <albogoal AT gmail.com>:
Internet is not an Institution (like icann, or google, or usa gov).

Internet is not a network of computers.

Internet IS A PROTOCOL.

A simple language. Everybody can use it.

And nobody can "switch off" it, because nobody can switch off a language,
if there are atleast two persons (or machines) talking it.

Alejandro Bonet
albogoal AT gmail.com

PD: The ceremony can be useful for the people participating on it,
to scenify their own personal vanities...

No much more for the rest...

No sense advertising to (perhaps) create confussion or refocus public
attention
from other more interesting hot points...

This is the behavior of a supposed "elite" seeing the world changing
more quickly, friendly, equalitary, freely and openly than they would
want...



2014-03-03 17:10 GMT+01:00, Christopher <weblionx AT gmail.com>:
The DNS exists independently from the world wide web. You can just as
easily use DNS for SSH or telnet or FTP or anything else relying on IP
addresses.

- C "WLX" R

On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Peter Green <peter AT greenpete.free>
wrote:
Guardian article is making a lot to do about nothing.

Are they not also talking rubbish? It strikes me as poor journalism when
the author doesn't know the difference between the Internet and the
world
wide web!

I wonder if I'm being too picky, but the two are not the same thing and
if
I am to believe what people say, they need to be accurate at all times.

Peter

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