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People are more than happy to check into Facebook why not our forum?

The biggest answer is critical mass. Facebook has new stuff from hundreds of friends at any given time. Multiple groups to interact with and engage. Their posts will be seen by far more people.

The forum might not have new posts each time a person comes by. The forum doesn't accomplish multiple things at once. A person is already going to Facebook for the other things too, a person basically has to make a detour for our forums.

On the other hand Email is something everyone checks.. Usually daily.

XDA also has critical mass, and a lot of there forum communities died before XDA finally succeeded. It takes a ton of daily commitment to make a forum successful

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On Apr 7, 2014 4:43 PM, "BlockAid DNS" <webmaster AT blockaid.me> wrote:

I take your point but i'm not sure I agree. In this day and age, most people are more than happy to check into facebook at least once a day, why not a forum? 

Take the xda forums as an example, probably the biggest android hub on the Web. I own a nexus 5 and I dip in and out occasionally, as do many other users. Its simple to get involved and much easier to get to know people, learn what role they play in the community etc. Plus, with the massive array of phone apps these days, such as tapatalk, you can get notifications straight to your phone and only for things your interested in. 

For a new user it's also easier to navigate historical threads since they're categorised in multiple ways. Also much easier to search.

I realise i'm going on a bit of a rant here and we're probably way off topic now, so sorry. You might be able to tell, i'm not a fan of mailing lists.

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  Original Message  
From: teamcoltra AT gmail.com
Sent: Monday, 7 April 2014 21:11
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Subject: Re: [opennic-discuss] Voting System

I find that forums actually are /harder/ for non-tech users and people who are only passively interested in a project. It requires dedication of checking a specific website frequently for updates and remembering that it exists. Email allows even the noobs who don't understand anything else to do the one basic thing that pretty much anyone on the internet knows how to do.


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On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 3:16 PM, Anner van Hardenbroek <dwlnetnl AT gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

I personally have actually no idea, yet. I'm primary listening and get in touch to the others.

Kind regards,
Anner

> Op 7 apr. 2014 om 20:46 heeft BlockAid DNS <webmaster AT blockaid.me> het volgende geschreven:
>
> I've never been keen on mailing lists, but like you I can see why others like them. I find them clunky. A forum has many benefits and would technically be more private, since only mods or admins can see ip addresses. Its also much easier to moderate and I don't have to get reams of spam when there's an argument. :p
>
> One of my primary reasons for suggesting a forum is that most premium scripts, IPB, Vb or xenforo come with inbuilt voting system. I used to run a large community on IPB and there was a massive amount of functionality for voting. I wouldn't allow people who weren't registered on the forum to vote but i'd go for anonymous voting.
>
> My reasons for proposing a forum are slightly selfish, but only because i'd like to help run/maintain it. Been itching to try out xenforo for a while, so my views are a tad biased. ;D
>
> It would be nice to hear what those who have been specifically tasked with reforming the voting system think.
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
>   Original Message
> From: Calum McAlinden
> Sent: Monday, 7 April 2014 19:09
> To: discuss AT lists.opennicproject.org
> Reply To: discuss AT lists.opennicproject.org
> Subject: Re: [opennic-discuss] Voting System
>
>> On 7 April 2014 18:54, BlockAid DNS <webmaster AT blockaid.me> wrote:
>> If i'm honest, I find the mailing list in general to be an ineffective way of managing a project on the scale of opennic. I tend to find it cumbersome and outdated. My guess is it probably puts off less techy users (not that the list is difficult to use) from participating in the project.
>
> I agree; I would personally prefer a forum although I completely
> understand the attraction of a mailing list for some users. An example
> of some problems mailing lists cause is your message, HTML email with
> colours and a random attachment which some people find annoying. (I
> know your phone probably botched it, mine does too :)
>
>> So if the voting system is going to be overhauled, why not do the list at the same time? My suggestion would be to convert the whole thing to a forum. It would make it far easier to monitor things, manage users, control voting etc. Best of all, it's public and easily accessible to anyone. Heck, i'll even host it for you for free!
>>
>> Just my two cents while we're on the subject, be interesting to see what others think.
>
> How does this proposed voting system work? Is it anonymous? I would be
> happy to help with implementing it if I can be of any help :)
>
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