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[Philipp Schafft <lion AT lion.leolix.org>]

reflum,

On Wed, 2014-11-19 at 21:29 -0700, Jeff Taylor wrote:
> Version 2.3.2 is the current version in the debian wheezy repo.  As you 
> noted, I am playing mp3 audio which doesn't really seem to be supported 
> in newer versions?

There aren't any technical changes on the code. But that's it basically:
mp3 was never and is not aligned with the project's mission. So if it
works for you... If it doesn't than we don't care ;)
We will not break stuff on intention, but if something breaks there are
only commercial options to keep mp3 support up (there are such options
outside the Icecast project).


> I started out using ices0 but discovered ices-cc 
> which seems to be a bit newer.

Ices 0.x was replaced by Ices 2.x as the version number suggest. It's
not a 'brach' or something. It's the version number. So there are newer
versions.... namely 2.x.y ;)

> Ices2 didn't appear to support mp3 at all.

It doesn't. Again, because of not being aligned with the mission.


> The entire setup is pieced together with Ampache to manage the playlists 
> and track data, plus I have been through several iterations of my php 
> script which generates the track lists for ices-cc to play.  The entire 
> setup is such a mix of different software that I would be afraid of 
> changing anything.

I thought so. It looks like you combined some ready to use stuff with a
few scripts. That is not negative feedback in any way! It is the way
POSIX tells you to build systems!
This is also why I write you. To provide feedback, ideas and help if you
are going to change stuff.


> As for the hatred of mp3 files... My audio library is nearly 600GB. 
> Converting it to ogg or something else would do nothing but degrade the 
> quality of the files, and require a considerable amount of time.  It's 
> simply not worth the effort.

Converting the files isn't needed at all. stream and input file formats
don't correlate too much. If you are sending at fixed bitrate (again
bitrate != quality) with MP3 you are already transcoding on the fly. If
you do so you could also transcode to another codec. Doesn't make any
difference.


> I only run the stream at 128kb to limit my bandwidth usage.  I listen to 
> it all day from work, and the quality sounds fine to me. I'm not exactly 
> running hi-def speakers here. :-)

(And again: bitrate != quality. they don't relate as much as people seem
to expect.) What arrived at me didn't seem to be a 128kbit/s MP3. But I
will recheck.


> Oh, and I wasn't planning on publishing realtime data from other 
> stations, I just wanted to set up a single place where someone might 
> browse through the available stations and launch off to their respective 
> websites and/or streams.

Oh, That is exactly what a directory is about. Think of the word and the
meaning of it without the context!

To have data such as what is playing right now is just a bonus you get.

Have a good morning!

> On 11/18/2014 10:27 PM, Philipp Schafft wrote:
> > reflum,
> >
> > On Tue, 2014-11-18 at 16:15 -0700, Jeff Taylor wrote:
> >> In case anyone is interested, I've been setting up some code for a radio
> >> station I run from my server.
> > Just a little bit of technical feedback:
> > You are running a very old version of Icecast (2.3.2). We are currently
> > releasing 2.4.1. ;) There had been many changes including many security
> > changes.
> >
> > Also you run the stream in MP3 wich isn't officially supported. ... and
> > you do so in a very low quality. Is there any problem with upgrading to
> > some supported codec and a little bit more of quality? (I'm talking
> > about quality, not bitrate!)
> >
> >
> >> Anyway, just thought I'd throw it out there in case there's any
> >> interest.  I'd like to set up the radio.free domain as a starting point
> >> to collect all opennic radio stations, so let me know if you have one
> >> you might want to add to the list (please give website and stream URL,
> >> and let me know if you have a name for it and/or any preference on a
> >> three-digit number).
> > If there is a significant number you could also set up a stream
> > directory. That way you can publish all the interesting information but
> > do not need to cooperate with the operators more than they pushing the
> > data to your directory in addition to what they are sending them to by
> > now (if any).
> >
> >
> > Have a nice day!
> >
> 
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-- 
Philipp.
 (Rah of PH2)

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