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[kevin <krattai AT gmail.com>]

Yes, yes, that I know, Jeff.  :)

What I was specifically speaking to was that ICANN could then sell
off .OSS and .pirate and all the others and what will we do ...?
Scramble to find a new .tld ?

Of course, I'm speaking from a principle point of view when I saw we
ignore .free, for the reasons I spoke.

At the end of the day, if everyone with a .free is willing to move over
to a .lib(re/er), then ...  hey ...  no biggie.  :D

Kevin

On Sat, 2016-12-03 at 19:37 -0700, Jeff Taylor wrote:
> On 12/03/2016 07:16 PM, kevin wrote:
> > As for ICANN, they could simply look at all OpenNIC tlds and grab them
> > for ICANN use.
> 
> Actually that's not true.  We generate our own root zone for opennic, 
> and that script forces opennic TLDs to take precedence and override any 
> conflicting ICANN domains.  So even in our current situation where 
> Amazon's .free has made it into the ICANN root, we opennic users still 
> have full access to our existing domains.  The only way for the ICANN 
> TLD to get into our root zone is if I remove the references to opennic's 
> TLD first.  If we voted to create our own .com zone, we could do it 
> because we maintain full control of the zone files used by opennic from 
> top to bottom.  If we wanted to maintain ICANN's .com zone, but replace 
> google.com with our own domain, we could do that too.
> 
> In case you don't realize it, I wrote the scripts and have been 
> maintaining opennic's root zone for a number of years.  Most people 
> never hear about this because for the most part everything runs smoothly 
> and your queries always return the results that you expect (yes there 
> have been some hiccups and I do what I can to try to make the scripts 
> more bulletproof when something breaks).  If I had ever betrayed that 
> trust, you can bet that everyone would have known about it!
> 
> However the point is that the root zone is an absolutely critical piece 
> of the DNS infrastructure, and changes to the root can have significant 
> affects on how you see the whole internet.  We can shape that view 
> however we want, and ICANN cannot simply reserve our existing TLDs and 
> shut us down.  The initial purpose of opennic was to show that ICANN 
> does not HAVE to be the ones in control of the internet, and that anyone 
> can set up a DNS service to do the same thing as them, but without the 
> huge costs.  We've been here for over 16 years and have a world-wide 
> presence.  They may try ignore us, but the proof is here that ICANN is 
> not actually as important as they would like to think.
> 
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