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  • From: Jonah Aragon <jonaharagon AT gmail.com>
  • To: "discuss AT lists.opennicproject.org" <discuss AT lists.opennicproject.org>
  • Subject: Re: [opennic-discuss] ICANN now has a .free gTLD
  • Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2016 21:42:40 +0000

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On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 3:41 PM Gabriel S. <gab.sadoun AT gmail.com> wrote:
STOP je veux sortir de cette discussion ! c'est quoi ce bordel ???

Le samedi 3 décembre 2016, Brian Koontz <brian AT opennicproject.org> a écrit :
Back when OpenNIC first started (2000 or so), the policy was that the
membership would vote whether or not to keep colliders in the zone.
At some point, the policy changed where we simply rolled over as an
organization whenever ICANN came out with new TLDs.  I was never in
favor of this.  At some point, if we continue rolling over with
colliders, we will simply be pushed out of existence by colliding
TLDs.  Hell, ICANN could put a stop to this in one step by simply
reserving colliding TLDs.

We need to keep .free, and every other collider.  We need to fight to
keep what is ours.  ICANN's hold over DNS is in question now that the
US Government is no longer in control of ICANN.  Maybe it's time to
step up to the plate and make a big deal about this, rather than
shrinking back into the shadows.

  --Brian

On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Maiyannah Bishop
<maiyannah AT highlandarrow.com> wrote:
> Yeah, I don't hold out much hope for it personally, but at the same time,
> the chances of success if we do nothing are zero, so it doesn't hurt to at
> least give a try.  I think we should definitely consider things as if the
> answer is "no" so we have plans in place, but it doesn't hurt to at least
> give them the chance to tell us to sod off, both because on the off chance
> they're willing to coexist and work out a resolution policy it would be a
> big boost for OpenNIC IMO, and because if they do tell us to sod off, it
> can't be said that OpenNIC didn't try to reach out and reason with them
> about the conflict.
> -mb
>
> On 2016-12-03 15:13, Jonah Aragon wrote:
>
> They (ICANN) are almost certainly not good neighbors. If you're referring to
> Amazon we might have a better chance with them but I'd still put it down to
> virtually 0.
>
> Also I don't think any OpenNIC TLD operator wants anything to do with an
> ICANN TLD operator anyways. The fact of the matter is ICANN has claimed it
> basically and we can't feasibly coexist with an ICANN counterpart.
>
> Jonah
>
>


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