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- From: JC <jc AT motorsports-x.com>
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- Subject: Re: [opennic-discuss] Spamhaus blocking Fusl's T2 anycast server IPs
- Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2016 15:40:58 -0600
There in lies the problem... they don't get to punish every. .Com because MalwRe.com infected visitors.
If you take .bit down, now they know how to win.
On Dec 17, 2016 3:29 PM, "Jonah Aragon" <jonaharagon AT gmail.com> wrote:
1. Nothing (probably best option). We'd just have to tell people to use another server if that one's blocked for them.2. Change the IP of the server. That would work but there's always a risk the new one would be blacklisted, and it would just be a never ending process until all of his /24 block is blacklisted: not good.3. Remove .bit and other Namecoin domains from the network. This might work? I'm not sure how many people actually use them.JonahOn Dec 17, 2016 3:22 PM, "JC" <jc AT motorsports-x.com> wrote:What are the options here? If spamhouse refuses to white list the ip?On Dec 17, 2016 3:12 PM, "Jonah Aragon" <jonaharagon AT gmail.com> wrote:Spamhaus IS resolving .bit domains, which is rediculous because they don't exist on the normal network. The whole thing is terrible. Spamhaus shouldn't be testing like that.JonahOn Dec 17, 2016 3:09 PM, "JC" <jc AT motorsports-x.com> wrote:Doesn't net neutrality prevent them from blocking entire servers for way? They should be tageting the single malware producing subdomain. ... Why is this a problem anyway if spam Hause isnt resolving opennic ip's? What do you reckon the number of devices is that can actually access . Bit?On Dec 17, 2016 14:59, "Jonah Aragon" <jonaharagon AT gmail.com> wrote:Because other servers aren't pointing to domains that aren't located outside of ICANN's zone.The issue isn't malware, it's that his DNS server (like all of ours) is resolving .bit domains.JonahOn Dec 17, 2016 2:09 PM, "Aaron J. Angel" <aaron.angel AT gmail.com> wrote:How do they not have every DNS server blacklisted if resolving a domain name pointing to a server hosting malware is good enough to get blacklisted?
On Sat, Dec 17, 2016, 3:01 PM Fusl Dash <opennic AT lists.dedilink.eu> wrote:On 12/17/2016 08:51 PM, Aaron J. Angel wrote:
> So, another server is hosting malware, and Spamhaus goes to the effort of finding a DNS server that resolves a domain name to that server and blocks it...from doing what, exactly? The DNS server isn't delivering mail content with malware, is it? This makes no sense to me. What am I missing? I wasn't on IRC.
See https://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/query/SBL325026
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> On Sat, Dec 17, 2016, 2:44 PM Theo B <me AT theos.space> wrote:
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> Hi -
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> So, on thursday a big conversation took place on IRC about Spamhaus deciding to block Fusl's anycast DNS server IPs because a .bit domain was hosting malware. The conversation never really came to a conclusion, so I wanted to throw out some ideas that we talked about.
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> Here are some of the options we talked about in IRC:
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> 1. Just ignore Spamhaus and move along(This could be bad because some ISPs block the IPs that Spamhaus blocks)
> 2. Send them an email explaining what we do, and how we're not responsible for any of the content on .bit.. and then hope they remove it.
> 3. Drop .bit completely, and tell them that the content is no longer there.
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> What do you people think about this?
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> -Theo
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- Re: [opennic-discuss] Spamhaus blocking Fusl's T2 anycast server IPs, (continued)
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Spamhaus blocking Fusl's T2 anycast server IPs, Aaron J. Angel, 12/17/2016
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Spamhaus blocking Fusl's T2 anycast server IPs, JC, 12/17/2016
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Spamhaus blocking Fusl's T2 anycast server IPs, Fusl Dash, 12/17/2016
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Spamhaus blocking Fusl's T2 anycast server IPs, Aaron J. Angel, 12/17/2016
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Spamhaus blocking Fusl's T2 anycast server IPs, JC, 12/17/2016
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Spamhaus blocking Fusl's T2 anycast server IPs, Jonah Aragon, 12/17/2016
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Spamhaus blocking Fusl's T2 anycast server IPs, JC, 12/17/2016
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Spamhaus blocking Fusl's T2 anycast server IPs, Jonah Aragon, 12/17/2016
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Spamhaus blocking Fusl's T2 anycast server IPs, JC, 12/17/2016
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Spamhaus blocking Fusl's T2 anycast server IPs, Jonah Aragon, 12/17/2016
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Spamhaus blocking Fusl's T2 anycast server IPs, JC, 12/17/2016
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Spamhaus blocking Fusl's T2 anycast server IPs, Theo B, 12/17/2016
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Spamhaus blocking Fusl's T2 anycast server IPs, kevin, 12/18/2016
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Spamhaus blocking Fusl's T2 anycast server IPs, Jonah Aragon, 12/17/2016
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Spamhaus blocking Fusl's T2 anycast server IPs, JC, 12/17/2016
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Spamhaus blocking Fusl's T2 anycast server IPs, Aaron J. Angel, 12/17/2016
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Spamhaus blocking Fusl's T2 anycast server IPs, Aaron J. Angel, 12/17/2016
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Spamhaus blocking Fusl's T2 anycast server IPs, Theo B, 12/17/2016
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Spamhaus blocking Fusl's T2 anycast server IPs, vv, 12/17/2016
- Re[2]: [opennic-discuss] Spamhaus blocking Fusl's T2 anycast server IPs, spaesani, 12/18/2016
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Spamhaus blocking Fusl's T2 anycast server IPs, vv, 12/23/2016
- Re[2]: [opennic-discuss] Spamhaus blocking Fusl's T2 anycast server IPs, spaesani, 12/23/2016
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Spamhaus blocking Fusl's T2 anycast server IPs, vv, 12/23/2016
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