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  • From: Jeff Taylor <shdwdrgn AT sourpuss.net>
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  • Subject: Re: [opennic-discuss] This is my %#$ rant
  • Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 10:55:12 -0600
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I appreciate the offer.  It's not really a matter of not being *able* to fix it, I'm fairly fluent in PHP and its shortcomings in many of its functions that don't quite live up to their names, it's more a matter of having the problem pointed out to me.  If someone had just said "hey we can enter <script> tags in the fields", it would have immediately clicked that yes, this is a very very bad thing, and I would have locked it down right away.


On 09/11/2017 02:04 AM, Dmitry S. Nikolaev wrote:

Hi Jeff.

First of all get well and be healthy.

I did not quite understand who did and what did, but I understood that someone hack something.
I dont see any discussion about it.

If it is PHP code, so maybe I can help you. Write if you need help. We will see what we can do.

Good luck !
With best regards, Dmitry S. Nikolaev

Moscow, Russia
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On 11.09.2017 07:52, Jeff Taylor wrote:
Last night I got an ear infection plus bad acid reflux and didn't hardly sleep at all.  So you can imagine my state of mind when I got up this morning to find a discussion between T1 and T2 operators talking vaguely about an exploit they found in the servers page, and the page itself broken and not providing usable info.  It took me quite awhile to dig through everything and determine exactly what was done and start working towards repairing the intentional damage.

OK, it's a fair point that I didn't properly sanitize the input.  However we're talking about a page that has been online for the past two years without any problems, but for some reason you decided that immediate action must be taken right this very second.  And not a single one of you assholes had the courtesy to even send me a PM to say "hey we found this problem in your page and these are the actions we took."  Seriously, I know some of you newcomers are in your teens, but do you really have to ACT like it?  This is a community project, it exists because people in the past have worked *together* to solve problems.  It's not a hacking contest to see who can blow up each other's contributions.

There have been a lot of complaints about my code in the past.  Yes I write in Bash and PHP, and yes my code isn't going to be the easiest to read.  There's also the constant complaints that I don't post my code on repo-of-the-week, which I've discussed several times on IRC but nobody seems to care.  Just how many 'official' source-hosting pages has opennic been through?  We've been in sourceforge, but we don't trust them now.  What was the one that did SVN?  And of course there's the numerous local repos that people have run over the years which up and disappear one day without warning.  I've submitted a fair chunk of my code at least twice.  And poof, there's no evidence remaining that it ever existed.

I have limited time to work on opennic, but I've churned out an incredible amount of code for the project over the years.  There is very little of opennic's infrastructure that I haven't had a hand in or written completely from scratch.  Everybody that comes through always has their own ideas on how things should be done, what changes need to be made, and yet almost none of those people have actually contributed anything.  Opennic owes its very existence to those few people such as myself who have dedicated months or years of programming time to provide the services that everyone else uses on a daily basis.  There is a huge amount of code in the background that I personally own and have to troubleshoot when things go wrong.  I spend what time I can either fixing the larger problems or trying to set up new code to provide features.  I have dedicated time nearly daily to making sure things run smoothly or fixing whatever is broken, and the thanks I get is "hey lets fuck up his shit and see how long it takes him to figure it out."  Real mature.

If anyone wants a copy of my working code, I have always been happy to provide it.  It may take me some time to get it together, but I've always given it.  And I would love to have others help clean things up, especially the registrar code behind reg.for.free.  Unfortunately the only feedback I have ever gotten is "I don't like your standard use of single- and double-quotes... here's a rewrite to quote things MY way."  I don't have time to keep learning a new repo system every year or two and I no longer have the patience to care, but if someone else wants to do the deed I've already mentioned many times that I am happy to help work with them.

I've been thinking about this all day and I'm still pissed, and apparently still can't even coherently express my frustration, so let me summarize... Grow the fuck up and learn how to actually work with other people who are in different times zones.  People have pointed out bugs in my code before, and I almost always get them fixed within a day or two.  Yeah I make mistakes, I know this and I know enough to understand the problem when they are pointed out, assuming you actually give me the chance.


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