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  • From: Mitch Roote <mitch AT r00t.ca>
  • To: discuss AT lists.opennicproject.org
  • Subject: Re: [opennic-discuss] This is my %#$ rant
  • Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 13:14:58 -0400

Is the code hosted publicly on a Git repo somewhere? It would be easier
to catch errors and vulnerabilities if there was a defined development
process and the code was available. This would also help in accepting
contributions from others as well.

Any security vulnerabilities should be fixed ASAP and having the code
available would help in finding issues sooner.

Regards,
Mitch


On Mon, Sep 11, 2017, at 12:58 PM, Al Beano wrote:
> If <marquee> tags are available should it not follow that <script> tags
> and other JS attributes are also allowed?
>
> On 11 September 2017 17:55:12 BST, Jeff Taylor <shdwdrgn AT sourpuss.net>
> wrote:
> >I appreciate the offer. It's not really a matter of not being *able*
> >to
> >fix it, I'm fairly fluent in PHP and its shortcomings in many of its
> >functions that don't quite live up to their names, it's more a matter
> >of
> >having the problem pointed out to me. If someone had just said "hey we
> >
> >can enter <script> tags in the fields", it would have immediately
> >clicked that yes, this is a very very bad thing, and I would have
> >locked
> >it down right away.
> >
> >
> >On 09/11/2017 02:04 AM, Dmitry S. Nikolaev wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Jeff.
> >>
> >> First of all get well and be healthy.
> >>
> >> I did not quite understand who did and what did, but I understood
> >that
> >> someone hack something.
> >> I dont see any discussion about it.
> >>
> >> If it is PHP code, so maybe I can help you. Write if you need help.
> >We
> >> will see what we can do.
> >>
> >> Good luck !
> >> With best regards, Dmitry S. Nikolaev
> >>
> >> Moscow, Russia
> >> phone: +7 (499) 678 8007 [ext. 6003]
> >> fax: +7 (499) 678 8007 [ext. 7777]
> >> www:http://www.mega-net.ru
> >> mail:dnikolaev AT mega-net.ru
> >> SIP URI:dnikolaev AT sip.mega-net.ru ||dn AT sip.mega-net.ru
> >> On 11.09.2017 07:52, Jeff Taylor wrote:
> >>> Last night I got an ear infection plus bad acid reflux and didn't
> >>> hardly sleep at all. So you can imagine my state of mind when I got
> >
> >>> up this morning to find a discussion between T1 and T2 operators
> >>> talking vaguely about an exploit they found in the servers page, and
> >
> >>> the page itself broken and not providing usable info. It took me
> >>> quite awhile to dig through everything and determine exactly what
> >was
> >>> done and start working towards repairing the intentional damage.
> >>>
> >>> OK, it's a fair point that I didn't properly sanitize the input.
> >>> However we're talking about a page that has been online for the past
> >
> >>> two years without any problems, but for some reason you decided that
> >
> >>> immediate action must be taken right this very second. And not a
> >>> single one of you assholes had the courtesy to even send me a PM to
> >>> say "hey we found this problem in your page and these are the
> >actions
> >>> we took." Seriously, I know some of you newcomers are in your
> >teens,
> >>> but do you really have to ACT like it? This is a community project,
> >
> >>> it exists because people in the past have worked *together* to solve
> >
> >>> problems. It's not a hacking contest to see who can blow up each
> >>> other's contributions.
> >>>
> >>> There have been a lot of complaints about my code in the past. Yes I
> >
> >>> write in Bash and PHP, and yes my code isn't going to be the easiest
> >
> >>> to read. There's also the constant complaints that I don't post my
> >>> code on repo-of-the-week, which I've discussed several times on IRC
> >>> but nobody seems to care. Just how many 'official' source-hosting
> >>> pages has opennic been through? We've been in sourceforge, but we
> >>> don't trust them now. What was the one that did SVN? And of course
> >
> >>> there's the numerous local repos that people have run over the years
> >
> >>> which up and disappear one day without warning. I've submitted a
> >>> fair chunk of my code at least twice. And poof, there's no evidence
> >
> >>> remaining that it ever existed.
> >>>
> >>> I have limited time to work on opennic, but I've churned out an
> >>> incredible amount of code for the project over the years. There is
> >>> very little of opennic's infrastructure that I haven't had a hand in
> >
> >>> or written completely from scratch. Everybody that comes through
> >>> always has their own ideas on how things should be done, what
> >changes
> >>> need to be made, and yet almost none of those people have actually
> >>> contributed anything. Opennic owes its very existence to those few
> >>> people such as myself who have dedicated months or years of
> >>> programming time to provide the services that everyone else uses on
> >a
> >>> daily basis. There is a huge amount of code in the background that
> >I
> >>> personally own and have to troubleshoot when things go wrong. I
> >>> spend what time I can either fixing the larger problems or trying to
> >
> >>> set up new code to provide features. I have dedicated time nearly
> >>> daily to making sure things run smoothly or fixing whatever is
> >>> broken, and the thanks I get is "hey lets fuck up his shit and see
> >>> how long it takes him to figure it out." Real mature.
> >>>
> >>> If anyone wants a copy of my working code, I have always been happy
> >>> to provide it. It may take me some time to get it together, but
> >I've
> >>> always given it. And I would love to have others help clean things
> >>> up, especially the registrar code behind reg.for.free.
> >Unfortunately
> >>> the only feedback I have ever gotten is "I don't like your standard
> >>> use of single- and double-quotes... here's a rewrite to quote things
> >
> >>> MY way." I don't have time to keep learning a new repo system every
> >
> >>> year or two and I no longer have the patience to care, but if
> >someone
> >>> else wants to do the deed I've already mentioned many times that I
> >am
> >>> happy to help work with them.
> >>>
> >>> I've been thinking about this all day and I'm still pissed, and
> >>> apparently still can't even coherently express my frustration, so
> >let
> >>> me summarize... Grow the fuck up and learn how to actually work with
> >
> >>> other people who are in different times zones. People have pointed
> >>> out bugs in my code before, and I almost always get them fixed
> >within
> >>> a day or two. Yeah I make mistakes, I know this and I know enough
> >to
> >>> understand the problem when they are pointed out, assuming you
> >>> actually give me the chance.
> >>>
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