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I'll second log parsing.  Relying on either DNT or a cookie to opt out
is shitty, since both increase the user's fingerprint.  If you are going
to use JS, make sure it comes from a separate subdomain so it can be
blocked independently of the rest of the site.

--Verax

On 10/05/2017 10:21 PM, Rouben wrote:
> No problem with Piwik, we actually use it at the University of Toronto
> on a number of high volume sites with no issues.
> 
> IMO, if we have no plans to use some of the data unique to Piwik, we
> should stick to less invasive and easier on the browser visitor stats
> gathering methods (i.e. web server log based).
> 
> On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 11:58 Jonah Aragon <jonah AT triplebit.net
> <mailto:jonah AT triplebit.net>> wrote:
> 
>     That’s fair. We might as well not, I suppose we only really need
>     very general data anyways so missing some data because of it would
>     be not a huge deal.
> 
>     Jonah
> 
>     Sent from my iPhone
> 
>     > On Oct 5, 2017, at 10:48 AM, Fusl <opennic AT lists.dedilink.eu
>     <mailto:opennic AT lists.dedilink.eu>> wrote:
>     >
>     >> On 2017-10-05 17:38, Al Beano wrote:
>     >> I'd be against using image tracking to track non-JS users.
>     >
>     > Same opinion for the same reason given, bots don't immediately
>     crawl images linked on a specific page. They *do* crawl the images,
>     but at a much later time which would skew our analytics data. I
>     think that having JS as the only tracking option is sufficient as
>     some (not all, but some) crawlers execute Javascript when
>     downloading the page which would result in the Piwik tracking URL to
>     be loaded.
>     >
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